The Hotelier - Goodness (May 27, 2016) Album • Page 288

Aha yeah the pre release period for this record was a lot of fun thanks to all you guys, I've been busy recently with jobs so have had to take a bit of a step back but have been lurking and will be right back for LP4!

 

Christian is someone who’s make an album far weirder if they could

 

I’m on board with hearing his Yeezus.

 

Some folks aren't used to getting likes on here ;)

 

It’ll probably take another project for that tbh

it’ll also probably more like, weird lofi stuff

 

Obviously I’m just trying to be hip by pointing out an album like Yeezus as my example.

In reality, I’d be down for Christian to do some old Microphones or Jeremy Enigk solo type stuff.

 

Lol I was being sarcastic

 

yeah I can imagine Christian being super influenced by the glow pt 2 and tape recording stuff

 

Can’t wait!! We will chat a ton!

 

I disagree. I think it's a modern classic. Tbh im hoping for a graphic novel adaptation. Maybe a sitcom spinoff.

 

Dammit @Kingjohn_654, this thread is serious! Enough with your shenanigans.

 

Who says I'm not serious?

 

Psh! More tomfoolery I see!

 

I'm going on a hunger strike until @sophos34 apologizes to @teebs41

 

I accept his like as an apology bffs

 

I've never apologized

 

Nevermind I ate a snickerdoodle.

 

You should really threaten to not like any of his posts instead. Hit him where it hurts.

 

Nothing to apologize for

 

Can confirm

 

He's an iconoclast. That won't hurt him.
We're bros anyways.

 

I only love my bed and my mommy im sowwy

 

Coming back to this site after weeks away to these notifications makes me regret my Hotelier tattoo.

 

That can’t be good

 

yeah, this is a good way to sum up what i was trying to say. i've had friends not pay much attention to Goodness even though they made a big fuss about how Home was so much deeper and more emotionally devastating than anything they had ever heard.

i don't think Goodness is a demanding listen, at least by my standards, but imo there's nothing as immediately rewarding on this album as "In Framing" or "Your Deep Rest" or "Life in Drag", which were favorites with said friends. there's a lot to those songs, but the fast tempos and guitar riffs and the overall emo-punk feel jump off right away and manage to capture a non-avid listener's attention with ease.

after that, they'd pay more attention to the lyrics, the overarching themes of being abused and broken and angry and hopeless would become clearer - because the lyricism on this thing is amazing -, and they'd finally "get" that those were special songs on a special album by a special band. that's just what i'm pretty sure happened with people i know, but it's also my interpretation of how it happened with most people.

on the other hand, i can see the same non-avid listeners/fans of the catchier, heavier songs on Home getting bored/weirded out at the poem, at the long intro to "Goodness pt 2", at the two-minute one-note bridge on "Sun" or even at the cover art with the naked people (remember how that was its own thing?), which in turn would make them dismiss the record more easily.

all in all, i think it's easy to get what this album is about on a surface level, but it takes a few listens to pick up on all the details and to really let the mood settle on you. i'm not saying everyone who didn't like it didn't "get" it, but much like the last Turnover record (not making any objective comparison here), i think there were a lot of people expecting something that they didn't receive and dismissing it because it wasn't what they were expecting, without really giving it a fair chance.