The Hotelier - Goodness (May 27, 2016) Album • Page 132

Yehh I mentioned it before man haha, it was one of my favourite moments of my first listen being like "oh shit! yeah!" haha

 

Definitely in my top 5. I'm not sure I can give it the number one spot considering everything released this year. But as of now it and Home are the only things I listen to.

 

Lol I can't believe I just am putting it together now.... Normally I grab that stuff immediately.

 

Yeah this album has sent me into a Hotelier frenzy. INGO, Home, and Goodness have been all I've listened to the past couple days.

And it just feels right

 

I never noticed the similarity between interlude 2 and YITL. That's awesome

 

I keep thinking to myself "okay, I need to force myself to listen to something else, because I'm going to get less excited about listening to this, and I don't want that"... But then I hit play and think "okay nope.... This isn't getting overplayed at all" hah

 

"Your grip on my forearm, insert the wrong name
Holds me at your nightstand just inches away"

:,(

 

Yea I wanted to give saosin a listen today we will see... I can't go to anything else right now

 

I just realized I haven't listened to this album today. Might need to change that soon.

 

I love that. Probably my favorite song on the album and that's like the cherry on top.

 

That new Cymbals album is going to be so good I love the direction on the new song.

Plus new Menzingers

 

ALBUM REVIEW: ‘Goodness’ by The Hotelier

first kind of negative review I've seen. not sure how you could give this record a 7/10 but obviously different people will have different opinions.. I don't really understand what the reviewer means by "slow burners"

 

I know how you (and I guess most others here) feel about it but I'd give it about a 7 too, haha

Edit: Actually I think that review nailed it about Goodness pt 2 and Piano Player.

 

I felt the same way about piano player as a single, but when I heard it on the record it really clicked with me for some reason, and now i love it. I loved goodness pt 2 immediately, I love how they make those in key minor seconds work, and I love just hearing his voice with the drums isolated.. also the lyrics on this thing just seem massive to me, I also love that it feels almost like a live album to me. Anyway I bet most reviews give it a higher score than that one

 

7 isn't a bad score.

(I didn't read the review)

 

it isn't a bad score but it isnt a great one either.. I just feel like this record is too good to be given a score that low. Idk, reviews are opinions but I feel like the reviewer left out a lot of the things that make this record great.. It felt like he listened to it one or two times and basically just went by how strong the hooks were or whatever

 

Really? I don't think the author knows what "monotone" means, because "Piano Player" is far from that. And "Goodness Pt. 2" starts with a driving drum beat and kicks into full force at the 2-minute mark. If that's "too long" then I don't know what to tell you, plus the part before it kicks in is already pretty damn great in itself.

 

I mean, you're answering your own question. I think this is a great record and would probably give it an 8/think that the themes aren't as deep as people are interpreting them.


EDIT: @Jason Tate wtf is this font where the upper half of the 8 seems slightly italicized, but only in the posting/editing post window

 

I also don't think Pianos Become the Teeth, Foxing, and Tiny Moving Parts are good comps for this band, at least not when it comes to this record.

 

I think the way he sings the first part of Piano, plus all the sustaaaaiiins, are pretty monotone/monotonous. Also I can't stand how the drums do basically the same thing the whole time. I'd say Goodness takes way too long to come in when half the song is the same drum beat and same vocal melody over and over.

I just really can't get into those songs.

 

Not liking or being able to get into them is fine, but criticizing a song that starts with 10 seconds of a driving drum beat before some seriously impassioned vocals come in as taking to long to get started just doesn't compute for me. As for "Piano Player" there are literally 2 different drum parts and 2 different fills in the first 30 seconds, and multiple tones/notes within each individual "sustain".

Again, I'm not saying you, or anyone, has to like these songs or like the choices they made for those songs, but the specific criticisms made in that review fall totally flat.

 

Haha okay fine, since there is more than one single note in "sustain" then not monotone, but monotonous like I said. And the drums do basically the same thing the whole song with some small fills and cymbals added here and there. I just find that song so dull. And yeah, definitely not the best review, but you know what that review and I were saying about Goodness. When everything all finally comes in, not just the vocals. After 2 minutes it's like "ugh okay I get it." Sorry for the long winded response and I get what you're saying. Those two songs just don't compare to the rest of the album for me.

 

To be fair I did say kind of negative

 

The problem is you're still speaking entirely subjectively -- "I just feel like this record is too good to be given a score that low" is some very circular reasoning and while you don't have to agree with the review, that doesn't mean it's a bad review or that the reviewer's opinion is less valid. And don't get hung up on scores, that's a dumb thing to worry about.

 

Just subbing fr now