They didn’t pick a fight, someone who came to the show dressed up as a furry got sucker punched for no reason other than existing and now has a lot of medical issues as a result. Apparently the band told them to come dressed up.
I meant pick a fight with hardcore in general, the incident that actually took place sucks, but people are doing that thing again where the actions of that one person now represent an entire scene, “hardcore is too violent” “hardcore shows should be banned.” “It’s all fighting and violence.” Which is all a bunch of shit. I think whatever band that was knew 100% what they were doing when asking this person to come in costume. That’s what I mean by picking a fight.
Ohhhh I see what you mean, I agree. Yeah it’s just representative of certain guys in the scene who want to take out their anger on random people just minding their own business. Obviously if you’re in the pit you risk being hit but the guys who do targeted attacks are just shitty, but they are the outliers and not the norm.
It sucks that person got hurt, but music discourse post-pandemic has aged me more than having two kids in the last few years.
I agree there’s a lot of bad discourse surrounding hardcore in recent years. However, I feel a lot of the discourse surrounding this incident is “don’t stand in the pit if you don’t want to get hit” and typically I would agree but when you have dudes being violent as hell in the pit and targeting others that’s where I disagree. You can be in the pit and rowdy without full on sucker punching someone IMHO.
and also I don’t understand the furry community but if they’re not doing anything annoying (other than just existing or moshing or whatever which isn’t annoying) I don’t see why people can’t just ignore them like if anything that guy in the pit embarrassed himself by being triggered by a fucking furry, that’s more cringe than the person being a furry lol
Rhetoric about crowdkilling and targeting happens at least once a week on r/hardcore so this ain't even another day at the park for us. This discourse is only happening because you've got another subculture involved that generally had no idea what's going on within the microcosm of a five second clip...again, not that it excuses it when it's an innocent. It's just...we see something like this happen every month and life continues on. It's tiring.
Oh I am aware, r/hardcore is the worst because everyone brings crowd killing up weekly haha I just think this instance is extra lame but also yes furry’s don’t know the culture is also true, so I guess I kind see both sides here
I'm not a furry, however, a friend of mine is and is also a hardcore vocalist. Seeing his interactions online with people in his community has shown me that there is a lot of crossover between the two haha just released their first song recently
r/Hardcore is the worst in general. PERIOD. I am 100% positive that it is the same users that post on Lambgoat.
Tomorrow I will go to work dressed as a Furry. (If you know my line of work, this will not go well with my boss.)
Roman Candle and Foxcult are beefing over the crowdkilled furry now. Both sides are beyond insufferable.
lol I said Russian Candles bc I conflated Roman Candle with Russian Circles. probably still would've said "who" had I gotten it right
Youtube algorithm just brought this back into my life after having completely forgotten about it for the last decade. This was hot shit when it came out. RIYL that late 00s wave of mystery guy hardcore.