Right? Some people are softer than baby shit. they think that if it happens at LDB it could happen anywhere lmao
imagining a whole room poppin off to Mindforce and one person just standing up front arms folded like guys stop im trying to watch the band
I don't think it necessarily has anything to do with being hard or soft...because by that definition, I'm soft as baby shit now too, but I've got to pay for my own health insurance with money that also needs to go to my mortgage or my two kids under 4 so I can't really afford an injury. It has more to do with the fact you're talking about changing ingrained cultural behavior that's occurring at the Mecca of a subculture. I'm all for being not being moshed on or crowdkilled without their consent. You can't bitch when you stage near the stage or the pit when you get caught up in it at an LDB, This is Hardcore, FYA, or even a touring Knocked Loose show without a barrier at this point. Your options are stand out of the way, not go, or to start advocating in your own local scene for behavioral change. It sucks, but that's how it's gonna be just based on my 16 years of going to shows with some consistency.
im also of the opinion that kids these days dont know how to mosh or stage dive. even from clips of ldb people are going full send head first into literally no one.
I've always understood that you're signing a social contract just by being at a hardcore show, meaning you understand the risk you're taking being at a gig featuring aggressive music and that whatever happens happens, within reason obviously.
I'm leaving for a mini vacation on Saturday so my wife was adamant I don't get injured at the Sunami show on Friday. We shall see.
99% of the time it's not hard to go to a show, avoid the pit, and still have a good time. If you can't read a room and figure out where to stand to avoid getting hit, then I dunno what to tell you. (EXTREMELY) occasionally the room will be incredibly small and everyone will be popping off (but this is usually a DIY show, nothing a normie would just wander into) and it's hard to find a place to just chill, but I've been to close to 1000 shows and have maybe twice felt like I couldn't avoid danger.
The person who posted that is problematic at best and looking to start things. I love when people who care nothing about hardcore post about hardcore.
Remember when there was honest to god discourse on this website/APnet about stage diving being problematic after the Joyce Manor thing? A hilarious time in the site’s history
The first time power trip played Richmond at United blood the whole room was moving. It was mosh or be moshed.
someone once stage dived straight into me and broke my glasses and that wasn’t fun but yeah that’s about it I don’t think their intention was to hit me and stuff but that sucked lol
Getting hurt sucks no matter what but it’s whatever lol. and I kinda agree @himynameisdakota i still remember Ben Weinman swinging his guitar inches from my face 15 years ago