The Hardcore Thread Genre • Page 120

Yeah that list sucks, oh well

At least Kerrang and Revolver and the like are doing better at increasing their coverage of hardcore/punk in the past few years

 

That list has a lot bands that I like and is quite non-male/LGBTQ+/POC inclusive so it's good enough for me lol

Better than a list of bro bands

 

I mean the bands are fine but the order is absolutely out of whack

 

List is alright, not sure why Drug Church are on there but aight

 

The list is a good list of bands and has a ton of variety and diversity but calling it a “hardcore” list is essentially click bait.

 

On one hand, it does show how much hardcore has grown in the past ten years and how many cool bands are out there right now. On the other hand, the top ten was pretty obvious and I don’t fully agree with the placing of bands on the list.

 

The new Hesitation Wounds is boring? Forgettable? Already spun it twice and thought alright cool back to Ceremony.

 

I actually like L Shaped Man a bit more but it’s good.

 

L Shaped Man is my fave Ceremony record (don’t @ me) but the new one is a close second.

 

Still Nothing Moves You is always going to be my number one, but I think their only record that I think is anything less than great is Zoo

 

Zoo is probably the one I’ve visited the least.

 

New Ceremony rules. Old Ceremony rules too. Rohnert Park is a quintessential hardcore album to me.

 

Some solid people watching here

 

This album is amazing. Also still love the Violence ep.

 

Random replies on conversation here from the past day:

-Still Nothing Moves You will probably always be my favorite Ceremony album, but I appreciate their progression and them doing what they want. The fact that they've essentially had the same core lineup as they've shifted from powerviolence to new wave is pretty damn cool too.

-That Kerrang list is clickbait. Pure and simple. I disagree with a lot of the order of it too (e.g., I wouldn't put Code Orange in the top 25, much less the top 5; why are skramz and grind bands even on the list?), but it's a very inclusive list from a relatively mainstream publication. Props to a British alt music rag for giving it a good college try.

 

It's got me listening to this Amygdala album from this year again and omg this band is so good

 

Sure, not all of the bands on the Kerrang list are "hardcore bands" but I don't think there's any band on that list that the adjective "hardcore" wouldn't apply to.

Besides, all of the bands on that list are relatively small acts that draw <1000 people to their shows (most of them A LOT less) so I'm just happy to have 50 cool bands get the exposure.

 

4. The band may have metal influences, but must be discernibly hardcore or have hardcore punk roots. (Apologies to fantastic artists like Iron Reagan and Enforced — crossover thrash bands that are just a bit too rooted in metal. Vocals and lyrics are considered, too — bands like Cult Leader, Full of Hell, and Varials are great but ultimately crossed the admittedly arbitrary “metal” threshold we’ve set. Likewise, grindcore bands must lean more heavily on punk than metal to be considered.)



They explain why there's grindcore bands

 

I still don't think Cloud Rat leans more heavily on punk than metal, but I digress. It's just arguing semantics with the wind at this point.

 

It's all an amalgamation now anyways and the more genres blend, the better, imo.

I kinda feel like that paragraph about how they decided what was hardcore vs. what wasn't, was just because they had to make a distinction due to their being a lot more than 50 bands that deserve a mention and reader's (like us) dissecting the list to pieces.

 

It's also not like Kerrang are the first publication ever to label a lot of the less traditionally hardcore bands on that list as hardcore. People call Vein hardcore all the time. Do I think they're a hardcore band? Not really. But them being omitted from a hardcore list for not being hardcore when they're constantly referred to as a hardcore band would be weird

 

I think @Jake W needs at least 10 more mentions of the word hardcore in the above post.

 

It’s creating a conversation like we are doing but at the same time I do agree with a few people that think it’s a very misleading title, especially to someone who may not be as immersed in the genre, unlike us.

 

Love that a guy that I blocked for being passive aggressive and rude to me is still doing the same after I blocked him lol.

 

If you're referring to Nate's post, I assumed it was in jest. Not sure what originally transpired though.