Eh, things like that will always lose some portion of the audience no matter what. Like the Mrs. Chen scene in Spider-Verse, where the joke only makes sense if you've seen Venom. Or even the "I'm the Juggernaut, bitch" line in Last Stand, relies on the audience having knowledge of an internet meme. I think it's ultimately worth it in general, but sometimes it is a little too much.
I mostly agree with you but are general audiences really gonna be aware that Nic Cage was supposed to play Superman in the 90s? Mrs. Chen from a widely seen movie just 5 years ago makes way more sense. Either way, whatever, not the end of the world
Yeah either one of 1.) please god still see aquaman 2 or 2.) Jason momoa will remain aquaman. either way it wasn’t funny lol
I was hyped for Keaton but I feel like my only interest in this at this point is finding out the context of why he puts a baby in a microwave
This was fun. CGI was rough at times but way less distracting than Quantumania, and there were actually some creative set pieces in this.
The speed force cgi was some polar express levels of uncanny valley there was a just fine movie struggling to get out in this. Sucks that Ezra is a decent flash
Was I the only one expecting to see Grant Gustin? I realize a crossover already happened in the TV show but still. This worked more often than not despite a lot of bad and generic writing, which is even worse when you have Gal Gadot saying the lines. When she says "sorry I'm late" with her theme song in the back, it's like... really? We're still doing this? And she showed up for a 2-second lasso of truth gag? Ezra Miller is too much of an oddball for this part but they were effective here and there. The speed force portals or whatever that was with Christopher Reeve and PS3 Nic Cage Supes was so bad it makes Quantumania look good. I saw this in Barcelona, where it's hard to find theaters that don't dub these movies, so it was strange to hear Barry's mom had a spanish accent and speaking bits of spanish, I thought they were dubbing some bits of the movie or something for a second. On a more positive note, I feel this struck a balance between serious and silly that DC had not found before, it felt fresh. It wasn't doom and gloom but didn't really feel MCU, felt more like a DC Animated Movie coming to life which really is as good as it can get. If The Brave and the Bold can maintain this tone but improve on all of the other fronts, it has a lot potential. The Suicide Squad is probably the best looking DC movie so I trust James Gunn can improve the CGI side of things, and hopefully the dialogue. I hope they do away with this universe for good now.
There’s really no reason for Grant Gustin to not be in this. Especially since I believe they even filmed a scene with him but cut it. So stupid
I mostly had a good time with this. Think my biggest laugh was other Barry turning to look at our Barry in the rubber “Flash” suit and the mask just covering half his face. I was really looking forward to finally having some clarity about the future of the DCU by the end of this movie as opposed to where it is now and I’m really pleased to be able to say that I still have no fucking clue what’s going on. It almost feels like they should have just slapped a Quantum Leap style title card at the end of this thing like “Barry Allen never made it home” and move on from there. Would love to see more Kara.
I’d have much prefer Grant Gustin to have appeared over a CGI Nic Cage. All those supermen had a zero reaction in my screening
I’d rather have the Nic Cage cameo because it’s at least a cool reference than having a Teddy Sears likeness when he didn’t even actually play the flash in the show. They can deny it’s him all they want, that was definitely modeled after Teddy Sears
I’d rather not be saying anything positive about the DCEU or Ezra but this is far from being horrendous.
I almost feel bad for being so hard on Spider-Man: No Way Home when something this ugly and desperate comes along
This movie is disappointing in that it used the Flashpoint arc for the character's cinematic debut, not because audiences or the character were necessarily ready for the story to be told in a way that was meaningful, but because it allowed them to have a multiverse story riddled with cameos. Then, they don't bother making these cameos or easter eggs complement the story (Keaton being the exception) - but instead throw things on the screen almost saying "there you go nerds, now give me your money". And then they double down on insulting audiences by saying the effects are supposed to look like that - as if that was the main problem. I do think there was a good movie there somewhere and Andy was behind that movie - the cameo shitfest has got to be all WB. I'd still just rather rewatch Flashpoint Paradox.
I do think the ending is a bummer compared to the originally shot ending with Michael Keaton’s Bruce Wayne and Sasha Calle’s Supergirl showing up at the courthouse to support Barry because there’s no emotional or thematic connection to Clooney showing up other than another “gotcha!” cameo, and it feels weird to leave Keaton and Calle behind the way we do in the final cut. Although, it would also beg the question of how it is Barry managed to create a timeline where they’re still alive when his alternate spent decades trying to find a way to do it but main Barry just moved the grocery store camera like an inch. Alternate Barry would be feeling some kind of way about that if he wasn’t already dead.
“So…you just erased me?” “Kind of, yeah.” “With Keaton. That’s kind of neat I guess.” “Not anymore. We changed that.” “To what?” *Producer whispers in his ear* *Affleck wistfully swinging his tassel to the left side of his cap while thumbing his multimillion dollar check* “Well guys, I can’t say I’ve enjoyed this…”
I actually hope it sticks, because I'd love to see what he can do with actual good material. Assuming he gets some.