The Fantastic Four: First Steps (Matt Shakman, July 25, 2025) Movie • Page 39

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  1. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
  2. RyanPm40

    The Torment of Existence Supporter

    Out on digital!
     
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  3. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

     
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  4. RyanPm40

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    Nice. Hope it blows up more once it's on there. Truly one of the best MCU movies in years and it's a bummer it didn't do better in the box office
     
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  5. sleepwellbeast

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    I still don’t know why Reed anxiety-blurts out that they were offered a deal by Galactus, what the terms were, that they rejected it, and with no consideration to whether Galactus is even trustworthy at all. Is it just couched under the “in this universe everyone is old timey and innocent and idealistic without cynicism” umbrella and it was Reed being honest about the nature of the failure of the mission?
     
  6. MidDave

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    I kinda assumed Reed has misjudged how beloved his family was and never considered they’d say “good deal, I’d do that”
     
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  7. oakhurst

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    I think it also shows that Reed will be honest and direct even when it’s in his best interest not to be
     
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  8. Penlab

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    It's where the illusion that people are morally decent and understanding at their core meets the harsh reality that they're not.
     
  9. RyanPm40

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    It's very common for people with book smarts to not have the greatest common sense socially lol
     
  10. Tim

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    Because they “needed” to manufacture some melodramatic tension, building up to a speech from Sue about being a mom.
     
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  11. sleepwellbeast

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    Yeah. It felt like they needed the public to know the rejected deal to keep the plot moving and IMO they didn’t really show why he needed to say it in that moment. My first thought as the crowd would not be to take the God-like evil planet devourer at his second-hand word that he’d spare us in exchange for a baby.
     
  12. JoshIsMediocre

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  13. NJPunkMusic

    Die rad.

    This was ok. I think I enjoyed Superman more.
     
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  14. Cameron

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    Agreed. The cast saved this for me I got kinda bored in the middle
     
  15. RyanPm40

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    I loved it about as much as Superman tbh. Maybe a little less.
     
  16. Penlab

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    I liked them about the same.
     
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  17. Greg

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    Found Superman to be a bit better.
     
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  18. RyanPm40

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    Yeah I think it was a little bit better, just not a massive gap
     
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  19. RyanPm40

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    I still think it was a bad idea to put them out so close together though. Going out to the movies is expensive, and Superman is the more popular hero.
     
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  20. justin.

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    I liked the world building of Superman and the space stuff in this, especially the neutron star scene.
     
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  21. sleepwellbeast

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    F4 felt like they were trying to re-establish stable competency to the MCU more than exercise ambitious creativity with the F4 story, so it was better than the recent MCU movies (other than Thunderbolts) but kinda felt slight and very straightforward/safe, IMO.
     
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  22. Penlab

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    I feel like FF was in a weird place where they could get away with not doing an origin but also hadn't made a really good film with them so they felt compelled to focus on getting them established.

    That said, I'm not sure what ambition would look like here.
     
  23. sleepwellbeast

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    One way it could have looked was keeping the original shooting script/plan. I believe they cut establishing action sequences, Johnny actually going to Silver Surfers’ home planet instead of him decoding the signal in his room, and some character development scenes in favor of the montage TV intro and an overall shorter running time.

    If any of the battles in the montage were meant to be real time action sequences, we’d have gotten some fun weird creatures and a proper reveal of what the F4 members’ powers look like in this iteration. Actually going to investigate another different planet would be more of a world-building and scope-increasing move than what we got instead via flashback.

    We’d also have gotten a better idea of what is motivating the characters and they could have felt less like idealistic archetypes than they come off in the final cut. I believe they cut a story line that added depth to Ben’s struggle with his identity and romantic relationships after the physical change.
     
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  24. Penlab

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    I do think they've been focusing way too much on making the films shorter. They cut things from Cap and Thunderbolts too, to their detriment.
     
  25. Craig Manning

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    Didn't see this in the theaters, mostly because summer got super busy around when it came out. Finally got around to watching it on D+, and thought it was really disappointing. For all that it was billed as a return to a zippier, more fun vibe, so much of it devolved into shitty CGI battles against another boring space god villain. No character development, no time spent on the fun relationship dynamics of the F4. Just another movie that builds to a completely uninvolving battle where a big city gets trashed.

    The opening montage, where they're shown briefly fighting all the silly villains from the comic books, would have made a way better movie.