The Dickies Verbally Abuses Crowd Member at Warped Tour

and this is why war of women is on this tour this year.

 

Someone should have kicked his ass. Also "I've fucked farm animals prettier than you". Pretty gross that he admits he does that.

 

"Show her what we're about."

Too late, buddy.

 

Like I said in the Warped Tour thread, The Dickies do some kind of shit like this all the time. If Kevin wanted a safer space at Warped, why the hell were they booked?

 

I don't know the guy personally but I'm sure he doesn't fuck farm animals. Could be wrong though.

 

Seriously ridiculous behavior from The Dickies.

I agree with Safer Scene's second solution of not booking bands that have had incidents in the past. But the first part is such a bad and unsafe solution that will never work.

 

And then to read comments from people suggesting "that's punk". No. Anyone suggesting that clearly has no idea what it's about.

 

I don't think he does, either. I was just being playing with his words.

 

Venues and tours do it all the time. Cutting the mic is the easiest thing in the world.

 

The actual punk thing to do would to give him a right hook.

 

Haha I thought so.

 

I mean, you could have crews trained that to cut the mic for anyone who starts into something like this. They're not owed a live mic, they're given the opportunity, and should have it taken away when necessary. Obviously they should do better to not book bands that are risk of doing something like that though. Especially if they're so notorious for it (personally, I'd never heard of them, and wish I still didn't know of them).

 

how is that first part not good? put it on the contracts they sign saying if they say anything hateful their set will be ended early, they will be kicked off the tour and they will not receive compensation

 

The comments are maddening. There is literally nothing punk rock about this. I get if you want to take jabs jokingly about your crowd, but there is a way to do it that isn't sexist and tactless. Apparently they didn't do this on the other dates they played, only this date - probably because it was their last. So I think the "they just do this at shows" argument goes out the window.

 

Just out of curiosity; why do you think it wouldn't work?

 

Kevin Lyman continues to prove he does not give a shit about keeping fans safe from abusive artists. Very convenient for him this happened on the last day so he can pretend he would have done something about it otherwise.

 

I'm sure they think "punks gone soft" when really, no, we just like our punk rockers to have a little human decency these days. And the jokes are one thing (not a great thing, but a different issue), but this was just literally verbally assaulting a member of their audience. (Basically, I agree. That argument does not hold up at all here.)

 

Holocene did this for the last Emo Nite they had with Blackbear guest DJing, they very quickly turned the lights on and shut their sound down.

 

following up on my last post, the money aspect needs to be key here. bands will not (at least most cases...) fuck around if they know that they'll basically lose their jobs if they do so.

 

The "punks gone soft" and the "world is too sensitive" comments are so irritating. No, there are just right and wrong ways to handle situations and treat other humans, it's not rocket science.

 

What happened there? Like what caused them to turn the lights off.

 

I know quite a few venues in Portland that put it in their contract what bands can/can't do/say on stage, and they'll definitely cut a show off/mic/end it all. And that's for some basic places, the venues/houses that specifically want to be safe places are very strict about it all. It's great.

 

Exactly. No one's naive to the fact that this type of thing used to be much more common in punk. It doesn't mean it was right just because that's the way it used to be. Change can be a good thing (and definitely is here).

 

The problem is, Warped would never do this unless bands start boycotting the tour. Maybe down the road it could happen but it would have to start with smaller venues and tours and work its way up.