The Christian Music Thread Genre • Page 95

It is I. A humble Chorus Fm poster with a different name in real life.

 

Thanks for sharing and contributing brother. Been much more of a slog this time around getting support so it really means the world!

 

Never heard of him to be honest.

Haha.

@Lucas27 is a valued member of this community, has a great taste in music and makes wonderful albums himself.

Sorry it’s been a slog. Anything we can do to get the word out there? I thought it would be good to post here.

 

Honestly, sharing here is a blessing. Sharing with whomever you think would be interested would be great too. Just sharing in general. Hahaha.

 

Had no idea! Have a tab saved for when I have a quiet moment to actually look at it without kids haha. Cheers!

 

Five Iron Frenzy vinyl box set preorder up. Three albums not previously released on vinyl, including new b-sides record.

https://www.fiveironstore.com/products/vinyl-boxset

 

Not sure where else to post, but the new Arcadian Wild album that came out today is probably my favorite Christian/Christian-adjacent thing to come out in a good while

also, if you haven’t heard their Principium EP, which is basically a 20 minute musical telling of the creation story, strongly recommend that

 

Gosh. Did not know they had a full album coming out. So stoked to listen.

First thought when I saw these guys live was haven't seen a group of musicians with this level of chemistry since Nickel Creek.

 

agree — their live show is so good! (And Nickel Creek is the band that I immediately parallel to too, probably mainly because of instrumentation and technical ability)

 

Oh dang is Five Iron Frenzy not considered Christian anymore and I made an egregious error posting about their vinyl box set a few days ago?? Haha

 

Huhhhhh?

 

Mostly joking…no one replied about the post. And they’ve definitely been a little more controversial, lyrically, as time goes on. I’ve followed this thread for awhile but sometimes can’t tell what people still consider “Christian.”

 

It's funny that we were talking about TFK not long ago, cause they're baaaaaack.

Thousand Foot Krutch Return With Adelitas Way Collaboration

Apparently they're making a new "Reignited" version of The End Is Where We Begin. Sounds like it will involve collaborations added to the original tracks, starting with War Of Change, featuring the post-grunge band Adelitas Way.

 

Huh. Pretty sure I stopped listening to them by the time they got to that one, lol.

 

Cool.

 

I saw them when they toured that one I think. They were good live!

 

I've honestly never been a big fan of theirs, even back in the day. Just not my thing.

Nice! Could be a good time. I need to throw their discography on today I think, later albums I'm less familiar with.

I think I listened once and moved on. Definitely was into other things when it released.

 

FIF is an acquired taste, for sure. But once you get into them, it’s difficult not to be all-in. Amazing people in the band, amazing music and lyrics…one of the most authentic “Christian” bands I know of.

 

FIF is an all time great in my book.

 

This guy FIFs.

 

I FIF, indeed.

 

not to change the subject (please keep FIFing!) but “Corner” on this is my immediate favorite. It took a couple listens to fully click, but the lyrics, especially as a (fairly) new parent, hit me hard — really pretty representation of the parent/child relationship. Beautiful album all around but especially that song

 

had an incredibly visceral reaction to a sermon yesterday

It was on the passage in 1st Timothy where it talks about "I do not permit a woman to speak or have authority over a man" and whatnot. I've hated this verse for years and years, and the pastor leaned into the misogynistic angle and even played up a little bit of transphobic rhetoric when it comes to the Greek definitions of 'man' and 'woman.'

The entire time, I just wanted to stand up and yell 'bullshit!' but instead I went to the bathroom and cried in a stall for a good ten minutes because I realized that I can't listen to that shit anymore. It was a reaction to having everything I've based my life on/been raised to believe falling apart for the first time that it actually elicited such a strong emotional response. For years I've disagreed with a lot of things the bible teaches, but never did I actually reach the point of breaking down

When I later talked about the sermon to my roommates, they were like "yeah, it's a tough passage to teach....but it's in the Bible." And while for years my response would be something like "ok that may be true but I hate it and I will never adhere to it or teach others to" now my immediate response was "ok, the bible says that, but what if the bible is bullshit?"

when that thought entered my mind, that's when I knew I was in a crisis.

now I'm on the very cusp of realizing I may not actually believe everything I thought I did. Crazier still is that it's probably been that way for awhile but it fully hit me yesterday.

anyways, I've got a loooooooooooooooot of reading and thinking to do.

 

Let me preface this by saying that I don't have all the answers. But I have recently gone through a lot of soul-searching myself and somehow still find myself a believer in Jesus if nothing else.

Deconstruction is a big buzzword right now, and it appears that this is what you're going through currently. One of the first things that caused my own deconstruction was realizing that the Bible is not inerrant. Once I came to terms with that, it made it a lot easier to deal with some of the, let's say, not very progressive ideas espoused in parts of the Bible. Paul in particular had a lot of blind spots and even admitted himself that he's not perfect. (Philippians 3:11-12, Romans 7:22-25) How can a perfect book be written by imperfect people?

It's important to see Paul in the context of the era in which he was living and his personal background. Not to mention that what he says about women preaching seems to contradict the fact that women play a very important role throughout the Gospels. It's interesting that the Gospel writers mentioned women at all, as women were essentially invisible in the culture at the time. So it's clear that Jesus and the Gospel writers respected and valued women's input, even if Paul might not be so enlightened.

All that said, I don't think this completely negates everything in the Bible or means that it's all bullshit. I still believe there is a strong case for a historical Jesus and that he really said and did the things that are written in the Gospels.

Modern American evangelicalism does not get to decide what Christianity is and certainly looks nothing like Jesus. And I think it's okay to doubt sometimes and question things. The Bible is an extremely complicated and nuanced book written by very different people living in very different situations.

I highly recommend the books The Bible Tells Me So by Peter Enns if you want to get more into this stuff and Cross Vision by Greg Boyd if you want a more academic interpretation of the OT.