I'm a big fan of smoked beers, peaty scotches, mezcal... so anything smokey, but usually the smokier beers are a bit more dark, like campfire stouts and such. This is much more like a German rauchbier, very well done.
Best smoked beer I’ve had in recent memory was Oxbow’s Vestige, which I may have even posted about in this thread. It’s inspired by rauchbier, but with a farmhouse twist. Actually works really well! Their Life On biere de Mars is also smoked and super good.
Everything I’ve tried from them has been quality. The farmhouse pale is ridiculously good, I’m sad I haven’t seen it in the Bay recently.
seems like this has been a very common complaint over this specific type of wine for ... over a half decade now? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/why-natural-wine-tastes-worse-putrid-cider-257281?amp=1 i wish i remembered the vineyard but i couldn’t find it on the bottle shop’s site. idk. it was like $35-$40 bottle. was not expecting something trash. my wife, who is much more into wine and knowledgeable about it caught it before i even tried a sip. and it’s the third different bottle of “natural” wine we’ve tried from there with the exact same problem, over a range of prices. we’re done picking up wine from there and are sticking with beer, since there’s a closer wine shop that’s had better success, but it hardly seems like a dumb statement. seems fairly common, actually.
teutonic has probably been my favorite vineyard as of late. would love to get out to oregon eventually to check out their operation
maybe “natural” wine was the wrong way to phrase it, though the bottle shop quite literally separated them all into their own section labeled as “natural wines.” we tried three different ones from three different vineyards with different grapes in the 30-40 range and to a bottle, each was “spoiled” and vinegar tasting, to the point where it seemed like more than just a coincidence. and looking online, it seems like that’s a pretty common complaint. and others in this thread have compared them to having an affinity for sour beers, which i don’t. idk what else to tell ya, man.
Natural wines are very similar to lambic/gueuze in taste. Taste is subjective and all, so if you don’t like it that’s fine, but coming into a thread where people geek out about sour beer all the time and proclaiming that natural wine and all beer that tastes like it is shit is a little silly.
i mean, i was drunk when i said it and, you’re right. it was silly. i was joking. i don’t like them. i’m sure a lot of them are quite good for people that do like them. it was as silly as steve saying there’s no difference between $20 and $60 wine and he can’t be convinced otherwise lol. coming in here and saying it’s the worst post in this forum when you have people defending trumpism and defending jk rowling for terf bullshit on this site is equally, if not more so, “silly”
I try not to venture out of a few good threads, so let’s agree to downgrade it to worst take in thread history ;)
yea im gonna try to drink more this year. tired of this lightweight rut lol well thats what i wish i could say. i sold out and am a weekend warrior now finding myself drinking more sessions then doubles.
Try and visit some more breweries when the restrictions are lifted. Also, and more daunting, try and brew my first beer.
There def should be a wine thread if there isn’t one already. But for a 2021 resolution, buy less beer. I already drink a beer or two most days of the week, but I still have a ton of stuff I purchased that I haven’t gotten to yet. I’d like to work on whittling that down, but at the same time definitely don’t want to drink any more than I currently am (and in fact, drinking less would be preferable). I’m starting to get sick of heavily fruited kettle sours and still have a lot to work through, so that’s one style I can be a lot more selective with Local liquor store had this. Irish reds are not a common style to see, and I can’t recall seeing any Irish reds from an Irish brewery besides Smithwick’s. This was really nice and reminded me of one of the first craft beers I ever tried, Karl Strauss’ Red Trolley Ale. Wish more American breweries were making this style.
I've started drinking and appreciating more styles in 2020. I'd like to continue that in 2021, as well as visit more breweries when we can drink outdoors again/it's safe