Also going through those BOTY lists, and it looks like Half Way Crooks is getting a lot of buzz. Need to go to Atlanta sometime.
Halfway Crooks is similar to Schilling in the sense they are pumping out many excellent lagers. Their merch game is also top notch. Definitely want to make it down there myself
Idk, none of the natural wine I’ve tried came across as vinegar-y to me at all. Have really liked the wine I’ve tried from Meinklang - Winegarden | Meinklang
have had some pretty expensive and highly reviewed ones and some more basic ones. just not for me i guess. again, love wine. every natural wine i’ve had has tasted like shit.
I love wild/sour beers and natural wines are a wine-off shoot of that. Obviously quality is a spectrum in ever category but that funky profile is up my alley. Not for everyone though.
I love wild ales and berliners/goses. I even like beers aged on grapes and or wine barrels. But I have not gotten into wine. My wife constantly makes fun of me for it.
Wine is wonderful, probably my third favorite beverage after beer and mead (though my mead experience is fairly limited).
I’ve gotten a lot more into wine over the last couple years due to making a new friend who’s very into it. Still not something I frequently purchase for myself, but enjoy it when it’s around. And yeah, maybe because sour/funky beers are my favorite, I’ve liked natural wines best of the ones I’ve tried. On the topic of mead, I haven’t tried much, but I recently found out there’s a well-regarded meadery in Point Reyes called Heidrun. I love visiting that area so once they’re back open for onsite consumption, I’ll definitely be hitting them up.
I drink a fair amount of wine, but I have absolutely no care for quality. A $7 bottle and a $60 bottle are such a minimal difference to me that I just don't get that into it. With beer, there are so many more styles and vast differences that I find it more fun to explore. I'm not huge on dissecting small differences between wines.
No one can convince me that a $60 bottle of wine is 12x better than a bottle of Wish Flower from Trader Joes
That's fine but I've never had a cheap bottle that didn't have that alcohol after taste to it. I never buy a bottle of wine period but there is a significant difference in taste between a cheap and not cheap bottle. Whether you'd pay for it is a different conversation.
I like wine but rarely drink it. I still have a hard time differentiating decent and good bottles but I can definitely tell when it’s a super cheap bottle. Wine gives me the worst hangover so I tend to avoid it.
What an awful take. Truly one of the worst in this history of this forum. I’m curious what wine you’re trying. There is no strict rule on what is and isn’t natural wine but if shit tastes like vinegar it’s just shit wine regardless of classification.