The Beer Thread • Page 217

Discussion in 'General Forum' started by Jason Tate, Jan 16, 2016.

  1. CarpetElf

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    D9 Carnival is intense
     
  2. waking season

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    Having a Tree House Haze. Cheers, friends!
     
  3. bigmike

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    I picked up a D9 beer when I was in North Carolina a couple weeks ago.
     
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  4. MexicanGuitars

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    Been in Poland, craft beer scene is actually pretty far along.
     
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  5. musicfan9795

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    Think I came to the conclusion last night that out of the most commercially available IPAs, Founders All Day is probably the smoothest.
     
  6. irthesteve

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  7. Joe Deegan

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    ha, I get it. hell of a beer.
     
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  8. bigmike

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  9. billyboatman

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    Had an Elysian IPA the other night. Quite tasty.
     
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  10. irthesteve

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    Make it happen!!!!#
     
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  11. bigmike

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    We don’t really have the tank space at this time, unfortunately.
     
  12. chewbacca110

    Formerly chewbacca110 on AP.net

  13. bigmike

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    So, a few things:

    1) I absolutely believe that a company making money hand over fist would underpay employees.

    2) I would be shocked if growler's were poured from 'high trub' kegs. I believe the owners would run out the kegs of trub to get to the correct beer clarity (aware their hoppy beers are not clear) and if they had been doing this practice, this claim would've come up way sooner.

    3) The beer industry MASSIVELY underpays people that work in the industry. I mean, America in general underpays employees, but the jobs within the industry are so coveted that breweries can pick and choose and offer little to no money. I overheard what a job at Perrin -- a member of the Canarchy (Oskar Blues/Cigar City/Perrin company) -- was offering for a sales rep position for all of metro Detroit and it is what I make at a 2-year-old start up. However, they'll pull in someone over qualified for that pay. Yes, it includes a company vehicle plus some sort of insurance/company credit spending limit, but the reps are required to not only be a rep for Perrin but for Oskar Blues (which doesn't sell well in Michigan) and for Cigar City, too. Not to mention that being a rep for a brewery with package and kegs is very time consuming, with at least 6-8 nighttime events a month and it's absurd how little they're offering for such a busy market.
     
  14. CarpetElf

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    @Swoos @stars143 you guys have NODA Key Lime Cream Ale yet? Fucking legit
     
  15. billyboatman

    Perd Hapley II (The Negative Flash)

    Local spot in Abq called The Lizard Tail, has this seasonal Strawberry IPA, 8% I think. You’d probably think it would be sweet and gross, but it’s not. So hoppy, with a slight hint of strawberry. Amazing.

    Our Elevated IPA from La Cumbre is so tough and one of my favorites.

    Anyone here try any Albuquerque, NM brews? We got some good ones.
     
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  16. CarpetElf

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    I'm gonna be in ABQ next month!
     
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  17. billyboatman

    Perd Hapley II (The Negative Flash)

    Hell yeah! Hopefully trying some beers! Where do you plan on going, if any?
     
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  18. CarpetElf

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    I have no idea haha. My friends mother lives there and we are visiting for a few days
     
  19. billyboatman

    Perd Hapley II (The Negative Flash)

    Nice, it’s cold as hell here so bring a jacket.

    I’d say if you can try La Cumbre, Marble or Bosque. Cheers, also, definitely lock the doors on vehicles when you leave them
     
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  20. stars143

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    Nahh - is that only at the brewery or is it distributed locally? I love cream ales.
     
  21. CarpetElf

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    Yeah only at the brewery
     
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  22. BlueEyesBrewing

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    Yeah, it doesn't surprise me at all that they would underpay their employees, especially since they allow tips and have that included as part of their pay. It's shitty, but pretty standard in the food/beverage industry it seems. I went to Allagash this weekend and they have a box set up at the bar with a sign that says they don't except tips, but if you feel inclined to add one you can put it in the box and it gets donated to a local charity. A great way to do things and I'm surprised more breweries don't do this.

    I don't believe the growlers being poured from high trub kegs either, as it would've been called out a long time ago by customers. I do believe that they release beers that aren't ready or up to snuff, as was evidence with the Never and Again release. The claim that I find to be most shocking is that they just added straight tequila to one of their beers and told people it was barrel aged. I can't imagine they would be dumb enough to do something so illegal.

    This whole thing has kind of soured me on these guys for now but I'm hoping all the publicity will keep them in check and they start treating and paying their employees better.
     
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  23. bigmike

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    Hoping that the Allagash bartenders get paid a living wage then. When I moved to where I am now, I took a job in a farm market that also has 50 taps of beer and you can drink and shop and because we were paid (minimally) above minimum wage, we weren't "allowed" to take tips. We were supposed to put them into a box mounted to the wall and then they would come and just take them out and it'd be like full grocery bags -- hundreds of dollars worth -- but I was still getting like $9 an hour at most at the time, when if I was making a lower wage and allowed to make tips, I'd probably have been making upwards of $15 an hour.
     
  24. Oddpac87

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    Ehh, I'm happy for their employees, but I'll reserve my judgement for now. I certainly hope they genuinely reflected on the whole matter and are changed people going forward, but I'm hesitant to believe that people that clearly could have been paying their employees 3x what they were before and were simply choosing not to have the best intentions.
     
  25. bigmike

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    Man I hate that "you hold us accountable. . ." line. Like, hold yourself accountable. Don't wait on bad press to pay people what you should be paying them.
     
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