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The 68th Primetime Emmy Awards TV Show • Page 4

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by popdisaster00, Jul 14, 2016.

  1. At least he acknowledges how shitty it is that he's a cis actor playing a trans woman.

    No just kidding that doesn't make it okay how many times does he have to win before someone like Aziz, who actually represents diversity, gets it?
     
  2. joe727

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    Burnett getting an award for The Voice, but he really needs an award on behalf of all wrestling fans for producing the revolutionary and groundbreaking Lucha Underground.
     
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  3. Anthony_ Sep 18, 2016
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    Anthony_

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    It was a nice speech but if he really felt that way he shouldn't have taken the role in the first place. Kind of hypocritical coming from him.

    I love Jeffrey Tambor, and his performance is really good, but Transparent is not a comedy series. Plus, his winning awards for the role is not the kind of precedent the Emmys should be setting re: cis actors playing trans characters. Aziz or Thomas Middleditch deserved that trophy far more for giving truly excellent comedic performances on actual comedy series.
     
  4. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    If Tambor didn't take the role it would have gone to another cis-male actor. I'm sure he's learned a lot since he took the role and while it's not excusable, I think his position is understandable.
     
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  5. VanMastaIteHab

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    Tambor deserved it, that is the best performance in that category. But it's not a comedic one.
     
  6. joe727

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    Ugh I hate Earnst & Young, they do third party oversight at my work.
     
  7. Anthony_

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    Oh no, my position is that no cis actor should have taken the role. I'd be saying it about any cis actor in that position. If you really care about diversity and representation, you don't take that role if you are a cis male. And, I mean, come on, saying "if he hadn't taken it some other cis actor would've" is not the right mentality to have over this. It's about the principle of the thing.
     
  8. Anthony_

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    Hawley was robbed.
     
  9. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    he mentioned trans activist Jenny Boylan in his speech too
     
  10. kbeef2

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    I normally don't find Kimmel funny at all but some of these bits/jokes are actually pretty funny.
     
  11. Anthony_

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    The writing has been very strong tonight. One of the funnier award shows I've seen in a while. Those OJ jokes in the monologue were hilarious.
     
  12. cybele

    set our hearts ablaze Supporter

    Both directing awards (Comedy & Limited Series) have been won by women, that's pretty cool! (Obviously diversity as a whole is a much larger discussion but this is still something that makes me really excited)
     
  13. cybele

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    Wait is that John Mayer????
     
  14. Anthony_

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    Hawley robbed again.

    Although damn what excellent diversity in that category: a woman, two gay men, and two black men.
     
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  15. Contender

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    The "Bring back Parks and Rec" line killed me for multiple reasons.
     
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  16. VanMastaIteHab

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    Happy for her but damn that was Fargo's best chance I think. Bummer.
     
  17. Nathan

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    I'm on the same side as you. No cis-actor should have taken the role. But the show was made. The role was always going to go to a cis-actor. That's not an excuse, it's a reality of the majority of trans casting at that time, and still now. My point was Tambor probably didn't think of playing a trans role the same way when he took the role as he sees it now, having no doubt done a great deal of research and having learned as much as he has. And again that's not to say it's right or acceptable. But recognizing the growth of ideas as it happens, which seems to be the arc Tambor has personally experienced, is important. If a cis-male actor playing a trans role can say trans roles should go to trans actors, that's a step, however minuscule. It continues to contextualize and present the idea of trans actors playing trans roles. Of course the entertainment industry should have realized this by now and infinitely more credit should go to trans activists, actors, and creatives than a cis-male actor in a trans role saying trans roles should go to trans actors. But recognizing the reality of how slow film and television have been to progress is practical, while simultaneously continuing to pressure creatives and studios to do better.
     
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  18. joe727

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    i wanted Bokeem, but i'm cool with SKB.
     
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  19. Anthony_ Sep 18, 2016
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    Anthony_

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    So happy for Sterling K. Brown. Be deserved it most (well, him and Bokeem Woodbine, who was so damn good on Fargo).
     
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  20. dadbolt

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    So happy for SKB rn
     
  21. Contender

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    No surprise there, she deserves it.
     
  22. dadbolt

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    And Sarah Paulson
     
  23. Anthony_

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    This was guaranteed for Sarah Paulson the second she first walked on screen. What a performance.
     
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  24. Anthony_ Sep 18, 2016
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    Anthony_

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    As much as I love The People vs. OJ Simpson, Fargo's second series was just a far better show. I know it doesn't have a shot at winning, but damn does it really deserve to.
     
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  25. joe727

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    The whole "CIS actors playing Trans characters" thing isn't regulated to just Transparent. You also have BD Wong as White Rose in Mr. Robot.

    I still love Mr. Robot, and still think BD Wong kills that role though.