yah you did i dunno man sure sounded like you thought you knew something about the writing of the song, it just felt weird to me to treat a taylor co-write as fundamentally different than what happened with lbt, unless she wrote all the music and arrangements for "better man" (unlikely) then i think it's roughly the same situation.
calvin tweeted about her exact involvement and what he did - production, arrangement, vocal cuts. she did everything else. Taylor Swift Secretly Co-Wrote Calvin Harris and Rihanna’s “This Is What You Came For" | Pitchfork it started as a piano demo: Taylor Swift -- Secretly Wrote 'This is What You Came For' and Calvin 'Disrespected' Her
Eh, I'd say writing a song with/for a significant other or close friend for their album is pretty different than handing off a song to a band you've never been affiliated with before. The former seems like a one-off thing; the latter seems like it could be an indication that she might start writing songs for other artists on a regular basis.
Anyway, it's all semantics. I was mostly interested to know if she'd done any songwriter-for-hire work in the past, or anything like that. I think it would be cool if she did more of this, especially if she used it as a way to stay connected with the country music industry.
Very true. The co-writes on 1989 came more from helping her settle into pop production, like how Jack Antonoff wrote and recorded the music to "Out of the Woods" and sent it over for her to write on top of. People don't give her enough credit for actually being a really great songwriter. Love this blog post Imogen Heap wrote about writing with Taylor, and how she had (wrongly) assumed she didn't write her own stuff. I M O G E N * H E A P
The sad part is that taylor gets way more credit for writing songs than most female pop artists, and people still regard her like that. I know some artists do scam for a credit, but I def don't see that same skepticism with male popstars. maybe cause male popstars are kinda boring and nobody ever talks about them, idk idk. but it's annoying that people always assume. not directed at anyone in here obv, just a semi related rant!
I think there's also a thing with the coverage of female pop stars where their writing involvement gets way more focus anyway. People noted that Beyonce has a co-write on every song. Therefore the skepticism about how much writing she did exists. But I have no fuckin' clue if Bruno Mars wrote a note of his stuff. Theoretically, I assume he did, since he was part of a production/songwriting team before, as I think harder about it. But nobody's actively mentioning in their Bruno coverage what he is or isn't credited as writing, so it doesn't occur to me to think about it until right now. Which is my point. This may be too rambling to make sense.
according to an E insider, Taylor and Drake are indeed making music together Drake & Taylor Swift Are Collaborating on Music Together
I think the only man I notice get flak for it is drake, and I know I've personally wondered about the 1d boys' involvement lol, but it does seem like it's a bigger deal with women and men don't have the same scrutiny or focus. like I do think bey is a song snatcher but I just don't see that same deal made about it with men. They don't get that questioning. it's not really brought up, but idk i also don't pay as close attention to male popstars either so maybe I just don't see it. it's like they're assumed to have more credibility tho idk See I'm rambling too
Yeah I don't think they get as questioned or get as much credit, at least in the pop game. I think it's just latent sexism, where men writing or not writing their stuff isn't a big deal. 'Tis dumb.
The fact that it's coming from Universal and not Taylor direct gives me little hope of anything worthwhile, hah
I got party envy of Lorde'd bday party that Taylor threw last night... Lorde, Taylor, Jack & Rachel Antonoff, Mae Whitman, Karlie Kloss, Tavi Gevison.... where was my invite?