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Taylor Swift - The Tortured Poets Department (April 19, 2024) Album • Page 134

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by iCarly Rae Jepsen, Feb 4, 2024.

  1. That's a better price than I thought, 4LP for $60 isn't bad at all! Still hope it's done right.
     
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  2. SteveLikesMusic

    approx. 3rd coolest Steve on here Supporter

    Considering some single LPs are 40 these days , this is very reasonably priced
     
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  3. ComedownMachine

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I wish she had an option to buy the 2nd half standalone though. Blink did that with their new deluxe. She has to know most fans buying this already have the first half on vinyl
     
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  4. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Prestigious

    She would never because of the charts, if she did that it wouldn't count as TTPD sales numbers anymore
     
  5. chhholly123

    i’ve been meaning to tell you

    tried to go to target yesterday but it was gone, obviously sold out online now. i’ll wait and see if there’s a wide release or restock but im not gonna go out of my way for it.
     
  6. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    IMO, she shouldn't have been allowed to count those initial vinyl sales toward chart performance since it was only half the album.
     
  7. fourstarters

    John // OC now, OH forever.

    The online page says “not sold in stores” now. This might be gone.
     
  8. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    That is the album though. The Anthology is basically a day 1 deluxe edition.
     
  9. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    *whispers* Day 1 deluxe editions shouldn’t be a thing.
     
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  10. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    Honestly I'd much prefer day 1 deluxe editions to a re-release a year later with a handful of new songs.
     
  11. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    Make Taylor Swift albums 13 songs with 3 Target bonus tracks again
     
  12. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I don’t think you should be allowed to have it both ways. Release your album with however many songs you want, but don’t then tack on digital-only stuff just to get the streaming numbers, especially if you are then going to re-release the physical version with all the songs a few months later and try to get your fans to buy it again. Predatory, wasteful, stupid behavior from a fucked industry.
     
  13. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    If we’re wishing for things, no more Target exclusive anything.
     
  14. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    I disagree. You should be able to release your record and then put out as many songs as you want as extras for people to listen to or not. I don't see why that's a bad thing at all.

    The physical release I can agree with though. I think it should either all be available at the start or there should be an option to just get the extra stuff if you want.
     
  15. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    An absolutely exhausting continued trend of capitalism and greed.
     
  16. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I think it’s a bad thing because it cheapens the album as an art form and because it leads to this kind of noxious capitalist maneuver. If you don’t have the confidence in the songs to put them on your album, don’t put them on your album. Save them for later. Let the focus be on the thing you wanted the focus to be on. I think I’d have received the anthology songs so differently if they came out now, as their own album, than the way she did it. The folklore/evermore approach was far more satisfying to me as a listener than the Tortured Poets/Midnights approach. I’d feel differently if the bonus songs on those albums sounded like clear b-sides, but the anthology songs are a completely different mood than the Tortured Poets songs. It makes no sense to jam them together other than for chart numbers, which I think sucks!
     
  17. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    i think it's still available through other online storefronts overseas (hers included). they'll absolutely restock it.
     
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  18. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    Yeah I just disagree. I think you can have confidence in the songs and want them to be a part of the same album/cycle while still wanting to release a more traditional album in terms of length and cohesion. Not everyone would want to listen to 31 songs at a time, although it seemed like a lot just forced them selves to anyway, so people can choose whether to listen to the standard and come back later for the rest or go straight for the Anthology.

    I guess it just comes down to personal taste because I'm sure a lot of people would have preferred them more spread out but I'm a huge fan of how Taylor has been doing it. I listened to the 3am tracks when they came out and didn't feel like listening to them with Midnights so I didn't. On the other hand when artists release deluxe editions later on with a handful of new songs I usually have very little interest in even checking them out. The Anthology only strengthened my appreciation of TTPD when it came out and I don't think it would have happened the same way if she released the second half now. I think it makes a ton of sense to have them together as one album thematically. There's a ton of overlap in what she's singing about even if it sounds distinct. It's a collection of songs that came from the same period in time and expresses where she was at for that moment.
     
  19. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Yeah, I drastically prefer to get more songs later. Spacing things out and giving them more room to breathe is just the better way to go, imo. In the Taylor parlance, the anthology songs never even got an “era” and will mostly be consigned to the dustbin of her catalog, versus evermore which has its own distinct legacy from folklore among fans.

    And if she was going to do it this way, I still contend it’s bullshit to release the main album on vinyl, release a shit ton of variants, get your fans to preorder/buy it before they even know there’s another album, and then release a full version which forces fans who want the second album on wax to re-buy the other album again.
     
  20. cricketandclover

    Things have changed.

    People will say she's not forcing anyone but she's cultivated a mentality with her fans that that they DO need to buy it.
     
  21. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    She absolutely has! And that’s to say nothing of the people who just like those songs and want that album, but already have the proper TTPD and don’t want to buy it again. I’ve even been coming around on the anthology songs, after not caring for most of them much. I’d happily buy just that album, but no such thing seems likely to ever exist.
     
  22. Michael Belt

    metadata incarnate Supporter

    i'm just glad Hozier was kind enough to say "hey, if you already bought the album but want the new deluxe version, here's a copy with only disc 3 that you can slide discs 1 & 2 into"
     
  23. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I don't follow him, really, but that's super cool that he did that!
     
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  24. i guess i would've preferred a delayed deluxe drop over how it was all on streaming so soon after, but idk I'm a pretty recent/casual fan of Taylor, i haven't listened to part two yet simply because i prefer physical over streaming. i'm glad i decided to collect her stuff on cd rather than vinyl, the latter would've just been too costly for an artist i don't have too strong a connection to. on rsdbf instead of going for Anthology (which I admittedly didn't even know dropped at Target) I went for the So Jealous reissue because I've been listening to Tegan and Sara for the better part of two decades and already had a few of their albums on vinyl. I generally don't mind Target exclusives tho, sometimes their variant is the color i prefer, or they have a cooler cover.
     
  25. Restock at my target - hate the packaging on this

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