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Taylor Swift - The Life of a Showgirl (October 3, 2025) • Page 98

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by ItsAndrew, Aug 11, 2025.

  1. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    Instead, here I am wishing I had Jack mixes of these songs
     
  2. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Nah, I still think not working with Jack was the right choice.
     
  3. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    The production on this album is just so... dull. There's nothing interesting, exciting, clever, or even notable. I miss when Taylor's production had great moments
     
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  4. chhholly123

    i’ve been meaning to tell you

    lol i think the production is far and away the best part of this album
     
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  6. SteveLikesMusic

    approx. 3rd coolest Steve on here Supporter

    It was a rush job
     
  7. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Now I'm trying to remember the last time I found the production on a Taylor album to be exciting.
     
  8. Garrett

    i tore a hole in the fabric of time Moderator

    a lot of disrespect to the clarinet solo in honey right now
     
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  9. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    Oh jeeze, I mean look at I Can Do It With A Broken Heart for starters, there is SO MUCH detail and layers and musical shifts, it's a perfect example of her production elevating the song. Lots of examples on the main disc of TTPD
     
  10. Zilla

    Prestigious Supporter

    I do like that weird musical shift that happens for no reason in the second verse of “Wish List.”
     
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  11. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    Meh, so much of TTPD felt like retreads of the Midnights and/or 1989 TV production to me. This album at least throws some new things into the stew.
     
  12. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    Wild wild take, Craig!!! New things??? I don't think I could disagree more lol. What's your favorite thing about this albums production?
     
  13. wheneyeawoke

    Regular

    The production on this has grown on me a lot. I do think it is very polished, maybe too polished in places, but the bass and guitar tones, and Taylor’s vocals are real highlights for me.
     
  14. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    There are so many classic rock or throwback pop reference points on this album, production wise, that I haven't heard on previous Taylor Swift albums, and they're all the obvious ones. The ABBA-meets-Fleetwood Mac vibe of "Opalite"; grafting that Lenny Kravitz bassline onto a Fearless-style country song on "Ruin the Friendship"; that Weezer-meets-Pixies crunch on "Actually Romantic"; that bald-faced Jackson 5 lift on "Wood."

    So many people criticized these things as "a ha, she stole!" moments, but I hear all of them as fun genre exercises that she hasn't really tried before, and the production is a huge, huge part of making them as in-your-face and (IMO) enjoyable as they are. I'll take those things any day over the "this just sounds like 'Mastermind' but more upbeat!" play of "I Can Do It with a Broken Heart," or the "This is what an indie guy and a pop producer think a country song should sound like" approach of "But Daddy I Love Him." Both songs I like, both songs that still contributed to me "she needs to fire Jack and Aaron" feeling.
     
  15. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I do really like the low end on this album, btw. Some cool bass stuff going on, on pretty much every track.
     
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  16. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    Crazy, yeah we're not going to see eye to eye here :crylaugh:
     
  17. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    For the record, I agree that the production work on "I Can Do It With a Broken Heart" sounds great, in a vacuum. I was just so worn out on hearing the Jack sound on Taylor records at that point that hearing Taylor's voice with pretty much any other producer behind the boards would have been exciting to me.

    My breaking point with "Jack-produces-Taylor" was the vault tracks on 1989, which just sound like Midnights: The 4am Version.
     
  18. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    1989 vault absolutely sound like Midnights tracks, completely agree.
     
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  19. iCarly Rae Jepsen Oct 16, 2025 at 11:55 AM
    (Last edited: Oct 16, 2025 at 12:40 PM)
    iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum


     
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