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Taylor Swift - Reputation (November 10, 2017) Album • Page 96

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by iCarly Rae Jepsen, Aug 23, 2017.

  1. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    It's coming from certain alt-right sites that have declared she's their ideal and try to claim that her lyrics are secret messages to them. The lawsuit is for supposed defamation (i.e. saying she's basically a white supremacist.)

    I don't like that she hasn't said anything. I don't think it's hard to say "I don't approve of Nazis"... but I also don't think she is actually a white supremacist. I think she's obsessed with her image, and right now her image is that she doesn't talk to the media anymore. Someone on Tumblr who attended a secret session for Reputation claims she said that she doesn't say anything because she doesn't want to give the alt-right any attention. Of course, there's no way to verify that, and it's not a great excuse either.

    I definitely don't find her to be a cold monster- she's smart, business-minded, sometimes problematic in ways that really disappoint me, but def not some the heinous icicle people try to portray her as.
     
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  2. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    It was definitely sexist of me to think of her as this cold phony

    I've started to see that the amount of control she has over her image is actually impressive , plus men are way more manipulative as we've seen
     
  3. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    Taylor Swift has been an incredible, humbling force in confronting my own internalized misogyny tbh. I used to be such an asshole about her.
     
  4. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    1. I Did Something Bad
    2. Delicate
    3. Don't Blame Me
    4. ...Ready For It?
    5. Getaway Car
    6. Call It What You Want
    7. King Of My Heart
    8. New Year's Day
    9. Gorgeous
    10. Look What You Made Me Do
    11. End Game
    12. Dress
    13. This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
    14. Dancing With Our Hands Tied
    15. So It Goes...
     
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  5. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Prestigious

    I put together a playlist of what my ideal version of this album would sound like- not a huge difference, but i noticed it makes "so it goes" feel like a much better song lmao.

    1) ...Ready For It?
    2) End Game
    3) I Did Something Bad
    4) Don't Blame Me
    5) Delicate
    6) So It Goes...
    7) Getaway Car
    8) Gorgeous
    9) Dancing With Our Hands Tied
    10) Dress
    11) Call It What You Want
    12) New Year's Day

    B-Sides
    1) Look What You Made Me Do
    2) This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things
    3) King of My Heart

    I felt like it would be better to have the petty (boring) songs as b-sides, but still end with a cute/love song.
     
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  6. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Taylor's career is frustrating because there has always been stuff to call her out over but people choose baseless sexist stuff or go so over the top it looks ridiculous. Miley Cyrus is kinda similar in that regard.
     
  7. manoverboard365

    Trusted Supporter

    I agree with making those last 3 b-sides. Those songs don't do much aside from making the album feel a little drawn out.
     
  8. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Yeah I know there's so much ammo and people grasp at straws, I mean she once said " I've said for years that diet Coke just gets me and my lifestyle"

    Plus her inability to handle criticism and her cultural appropriation of course
     
  9. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    listening to Red for the first time ever.
     
  10. I agree with like 95% of this but I’d probably bench Ready For It? and I like King of My Heart.
     
  11. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Someone already said it, but these rankings are so all over the place that it validates putting all of these songs on here.
     
  12. navidson

    Regular

    Enjoy - It's her best
     
  13. manoverboard365

    Trusted Supporter

    Red being her best? Uh oh, we gonna do rankings? Yeah we're doing rankings:

    1) 1989
    2) Speak Now
    3) Fearless
    4) Reputation
    5) Red
    6) Taylor Swift

    I'd probably flip Reputation and Red, but right now its just too fresh in my head.
     
  14. Lori

    a testament to the old sins Prestigious

    I can't trust anybody who doesn't have Red as their number one.
     
  15. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    It's also 65 minutes long. She has never been one for brevity, has she?
     
  16. manoverboard365

    Trusted Supporter

    Lol I didn't realize so many people loved Red. I think it's the excessive run time that kills it for me. If 4 songs were cut I'd rank it so much higher.
     
  17. Mister Lyrical

    Forging Clarity Supporter

    I feel like Red and 1989 could both be argued as the best of the 6. But here's mine.

    1. Red
    2. 1989
    3. Speak Now
    4. Reputation
    5. Fearless
    6. Taylor Swift

    Fearless and the self-titled never really stood out to me outside of a couple songs, it wasn't until Speak Now that I jumped on the Taylor Train. Red might have a couple songs that should've been left as b-sides but it's definitely got the highest highs of her career. The Reputation ranking might change for me down the line, but right now that's where it's sitting.
     
  18. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    I think it's hard for me because Red era is when I found her the most extra, there's definitely a lot of jams, I'm not sure I've actually listened to an entire album of hers other than 1989
     
  19. unbornwhiskey

    Trusted

    the only songs that are less than great on red are the duets, and they're still pretty good
     
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  20. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    Update: It's all pretty consistently good, but Starlight is really cool.
     
  21. unbornwhiskey

    Trusted

    lol i was ranking her records in my head in the shower this morning, this is what i ended up with

    1. red
    2. speak now (would be no. 1 had she cut "innocent")
    3. fearless
    4. taylor swift
    5. 1989 (would be no. 3 if "new romantics" were actually on the record proper and "welcome to ny" and "bad blood" didn't exist)
    6. reputation (dead last no matter how you arrange it)
     
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  22. unbornwhiskey

    Trusted

    the s/t is so full of jams i cannot abide it being underrated itt
     
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  23. SpyKi

    You must fix your heart Supporter

    1. 1989
    2. Red
    3. Speak Now
    4. Fearless
    5. Reputation
     
  24. Micah511

    We reach for the longest shadow

    The verses of Begin Again kind of remind me of Your Wild Years by The Menzingers.
     
  25. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    run away with me Platinum

    Everything Has Changed is Ed's best song
     
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