Taylor Swift - Reputation (November 10, 2017) Album • Page 93

Definitely an emphasis on younger females, lots of singing in the lobby, high pitched excitement... but I didn't really let the audience affect me when I saw her, I had a great time

 

I cannot stop putting on End Game & I love it.

 

So, is this worth checking out? Wasn't huge on LWYMMD, liked Ready For It and Call It What You Want, kinda indifferent to Gorgeous.

 

Yes, very much so

 

Alright, will do.

 

uhh, surprise she is on Fallon tonight!

 

Imo I Did Something Bad would have delivered the same message and gotten people talking like LWYMMD did while also being not nearly as cringey

 

I'm adding Dancing With Our Hands Tied to my list of favorites. That song is such a jam.

 

video isn't up yet

 

Is there more context to that that I don't get? Why was everyone sobbing? Is this one of those cases of me having a black heart

 

first show after Jimmy's mom died and there's more to the thread

 

Oh okay I figured I was missing something cause I enjoy the song too but not in a sobbing along way. I didn't realize his mom died recently.

 

That whole string of tweets is really sweet. A bit confused though, did Taylor know that story from a previous conversation with Fallon? It seems like she had to, and that's where the lyric came from?

 

Ugh that's so nice

 

That performance was so, so good

 

Chills.

 

the way Jimmy says "Thank you Taylor" at the end there

 

Same reason Drake and Ed Sheeran put out two different-sounding first singles at once... to see which one sticks. It’s becoming increasingly popular for a major pop star to capitalize on their initial interest.

Plus she wanted that football check.

 

That’s up there with the all too well Grammy performance

 

Right but then with that thought process, she would not have been expecting both of them to stick. And Ed released them both at the same time. I don't remember which ones Drake released, but his and Taylor's approach to a new album are polar opposites.

 

look what you made me do with the music video including her drinking out of a grammy premiering during the vmas katy was hosting was 100% intentional. and like someone said above, the point of that song was solely to get people talking. it did that.

premiering ready for it during alabama/fsu hit another big note of her fanbase. same with the two songs during TGIT.

but i also agree that if she had gone with I Did Something Bad or Endgame she would still be having huge numbers.

 

It's a new Taylor thing to release Look What You Made Me Do as a single that's why y'all don't get it

 

I disagree that they're opposite promotional approaches. Their single strategies were exactly the same: put out two different-sounding singles to capture the greatest possible SOV and hope they stick with a relevant segment of your audience. You can absolutely hope they both stick as long as they're different-sounding songs.

Drake:
One Dance
Pop Style

Ed:
Castle on the Hill
Shape of You

Taylor:
LWYMMD
Ready For It

No one that big expects anything from their leadoff single other than an inflated first week when you come back due to PR/fan interest. I'm sure Taylor was thrilled when LWYMMD went #1 and parts of her fanbase loved the more rhythmic direction she went in -- she's not a robot (despite some of her music video choices).

 

Well I'm saying Drake & Taylor are polar opposites because Drake works to maximize the number of streams he will get. Taylor does the exact opposite and goes for a massive number of first week sales. And I think in all of those cases the second single released was one that is much more aimed directly at their main fan base, whereas the first is them branching out. (One Dance is one of Drake's most straight forward pop songs, Shape of You was last the acoustic quiet Ed Sheeran and one more ready for the club, and same with the Taylor songs as the Ed songs. The 2nd singles in all these cases I don't feel are meant to be #1 singles, they're meant to reassure people that "hey even if you don't like this new direction, I'm still going to have some songs that are more my classic style". And yea I agree, that's what I'm saying is that I don't think the expectation releasing these was "hey this is going to be the big song from this album. It was just meant to generate interest and hopefully do well on the charts. Really all I'm trying to get at is we should not write Taylor off and say she's not going to have #1 smash hits anymore, because I think she was saving the songs she thinks can accomplish that for after the album release. Maybe I'm way off though this got really long and rambling haha sorry