I also wish they’d close with Decade or something else instead of MakeDamnSure. Nothing against MDS. Great song, but it doesn’t have closer energy. That’s a mid set song.
When they did the coin flip shows and ended the wywtb set with slowdance as it is on the record…incredible set closer too. I know why makedamnsure is at the end (because it’s the one people want to hear), but I think even if they want to play the same songs they could stand to shake up the order a little. S’old has been a fun set opener, at least.
I think it’s just vocally taxing on them? But it’s crazy that where you want to be just gets knocked down to decade and set phasers (and not even always!) especially after the crowd got them to play photograph that one time.
Unrelated to the drama in this thread but….The Fray were the opener opener of that show? I definitely regret not driving out to it
Goes to show young of a fan I am not to know this lol. As another person said in this thread, it is a vocally taxing song to sing though, especially that ending.
That Where My Mouth Is performance was dope minus the fact that they had to trim the song down. That was bullshit. But I love that song haha
Cute Without the E is usually an early set staple or 4 or 5 from the end. I think it should close more often than MDS imo.
Fair, but I think at this point, they don’t have a ton of songs in their back catalogue that aren’t vocally taxing on Adam and John. I don’t mean that as a dog at either, but so much of the first four albums was shouting and wailing.
I’ve seen them not close with MDS a lot though. They played it 2nd in the set on the first main tour of Self Titled, they played it early on the TAYF10 tour and also the Twenty Tour on nights when they did Louder Now.
I’ve been listening to TBS since the OG lineup days with Antonio & I’ve been a pretty big fan of everything they’ve released. I think by the end of Louder Now, I felt like I was ready for something different & more rock n roll from them, so New Again always felt like that to me. I loved that direction they went in & it felt like a natural progression. I’ve always been curious about what they meant when they said it didn’t turn out how they wanted it to. Have they ever elaborated on that? or was it always just “it didn’t turn out how we wanted it to.”
Yeah, for a hit that came out in 2006, they didn’t really seem to make it their set closer until the last few years it seems. I have seen them 15+ times and it really hasn’t been until recently they have closed with it.
With the exception of album play shows I think it’s been consistently right before mds for a while now, actually
The tayf10 it was played early because it was part of the pre-tayf set, but it was the last song of that pre-tayf set (funny story—I remember somebody being mad that they didn’t play any TAYF during their show on this tour and it was because they did that whole 8 song set before going into tayf, and I guess that person didn’t stick around past that). apart from album play shows (which are outliers in my opinion unless they’re going to play the song twice or out of order, and even still on wywtb nights for the 20 year tour they closed with it), they’ve fairly consistently done cute and mds as their final two (sometimes with a song wedged between them) since maybe 2015? I feel like there was a period in time where cute was coming like 4 or 5 in 2013, but mds has been last for over 10 years now, especially when they do a fest.
I feel like MDS has been their closer for the better part of a decade now. If you take a look quick glance at setlist.fm, it’s pretty consistently the final song (save for the 20 Tour on nights when they played LN in full).
Revisiting that Where My Mouth Is live video always bums me out because it sounds so much better than the tamer, kinda dull sounding studio version
In MDS Adam wants to break someone down so badly, in Sink Into Me Adam wants someone to sink their teeth into him.
Both songs are good, of course. When I listened to them back to back to see if I could see what the comparison was, I was reminded that “Sink Into Me” is underrated and could be really fun live. Though, “MakeDamnSure” is for sure better. Truly a top tier TBS track for me, in spite of me caring for Louder Now less than most seem to.