I think Hopeless is kinda a factor too. Somos had a hometown show last month @Sinclir (apparently 500ish cap) and even with the balcony closed off, it was pretty empty. They're not as huge of a draw as TBS or Bayside obviously, but I'd imagine it's a factor
Honestly some bands do really well here and some don't. It's not that the market isn't there we just have a strange market I think haha Also yesterdays show only did 500 people which is insane to me
Lots of interesting and good comments regarding the market here in Cleveland. I went through a faze earlier in the year when all the big arena / stadium touts where announced to go on Twitter rants about how the market is constantly skipped. I don't know if you guys saw the article that Scene ran but it tat lks about it. I need to re-read it because I can't remember exactly what it say. lol.
Can you link that? But yeah I love Cleveland and I love our venues but I feel like people here are becoming jaded or maybe just moving? I don't know haha
Strange might the operative word to describe it. You're right. I went to Thrice this past weekend and that didn't feel close to selling out imo. I don't recall there being anyone in the balcony. The Wonder Years and the Underoath tours seemed to do really well from what I remember. But, I am trying to think of shows that do really well here in 2016.
Thrice did about 800 people, which is weird because I guess the first leg of the tour was all 1800-2000 people at every date. TWY last tour actually didn't do too well here. State Champs and Neck Deep did 2100 which is the biggest Agora show recently and I don't understand that at all
Really, the TWY, SC, & Motion City show last year didn't do well? It seemed packed to me. The balcony wasn't full, but folks got pushed up there.
Perhaps it's all the growth in Cleveland? I mean, there are 10x more things to do in Cleveland today then there were 5 to 10 years ago. You got the Casino now, you got E. 4th that has been completely redone, you got W. 6th that is super popular now and you got all of the Flats being made over. Maybe people aren't going to concerts as much as they used to because there are more things to do? I don't know. I don't get it. I love going to concerts so none of what I just mentioned would ever stop me from going to a concert. The only concert I purposely skipped out of was last year when The Front Bottoms played at the Agora and I instead went to the Cavs home opener.
All of this talk of the crowds and what not in Cleveland, they just announced the Hannbial Burres shows was downgraded from the Masonic to the House of Blues. Wow! I'll find it and link you.
Just got back from the show. We got the encore after about maybe 10 mins and half the crowd leaving. Hell of a show I thought the new songs sounded great live. People seemed to be real into a few of them.
Touring in general is up. More people are going to concerts than ever, and bands are touring more than ever.
I don't doubt that at all, some of the posters in here were talking about the Cleveland area in particular and how strange the market has been over the past few years. Bands who normally play bigger venues around here couldn't even sell out venues half the size this time around (TBS, Bayside, Thrice). Perhaps the market is just over-saturated or at the very least, some of these bands are playing Cleveland too much. I know in the case of TBS and Bayside, they pretty much play Cleveland on what seems a yearly basis.
Being from Denver, it's harder to "road trip" to other shows because any other major city is 6-8+ hours in any direction. If I lived in a place like Ohio where you have other major touring markets within 2 hours, I would be going to other cities all the time. Not saying that has anything to do with attendance in Cleveland, but that entire part of the country is pretty saturated compared to out in my part of the country.
Oh yeah, I travel to Columbus, Cincinnati and Pittsburgh quite frequently for shows. I think I had mentioned earlier in this thread, that those cities are probably a lot more attractive for bands/artists these days just because of the college presence. You just have more people between 18-22 in those cities.
Yes, they don"t plan on this encore but a few cities have gotten them to come back out. It had been a solid 5 minutes and we were still chanting for another song so they came out and gave it to us.
I like the idea of the lights coming on and the band actually being done playing, only to come back out if the crowd response is overwhelming. Now days it seems like every band plans an encore, I like the real deal better.
We got the encore in MI as well. I was really surprised because the lights were on and the crowd was filing out, the band kind of waited a real long time before coming out and playing it. I would have left if someone on this site didn't mention that they came back out.