this is from the book the movie is loosely based on and yet the movie made every planet look the same
i get wanting to make it your own vision but it's such a missed opportunity to really explore the cosmic side of the dc universe in a fun and colorful way. i don't think nogueira's script is bad per se, it would've benefited from some rearranging at the very least. the flashbacks could've all just been at the very beginning. i guess the story can be seen as gritty but they didn't have to make krem so fucking ugly
I don’t care about faithfulness, partly because I like that comic less than most, though I’d still feel the same if I loved the source material. However, when one of the comic’s greatest strengths is the look of it, and the look of the movie is mostly bland, that’s gonna be an unflattering comparison. Also, yeah, Krem was such an ugly nothing, lol. Don’t understand that choice.
It felt like the entire atheistic of the movie was borrowed from GotG. The make up, costumes, even the cinematography.
When you all said there was a slowed down cover of “The Middle” by Jimmy Eat World, I kind of thought it was going to be this version, which I actually do really like lol:
Smash the like button if you were hoping it was the Kaitlin Butts version. Comment if you didn’t know who Kaitlin Butts was before reading this and you think that’s an interesting last name.
If Audrey Assad’s voice were in this movie, you would’ve heard about it as soon as I left the theater.
btw Emily Beecham from Into the Badlands and Angela Sarafyan from Westworld as the cousins' moms?? Casting director knows ball
Still rooting for Milly that she gets another chance with this character. The discourse for this has been so weird because instead of just being a misstep, it’s being viewed as the end of superhero movies and the James Gunn DC Universe.
I'd imagine a lot of the negative reviews out there are misogyny. ...Not that I think anyone in here is a misogynist. Look. If you're still on the fence this weekend please please please go watch it. You're free to dislike the movie afterwards, just don't let reviews from some dumb Snyder-bros keep you from actually watching it. You might find it mid or even bad but at least you'll have formed your own opinion, and more importantly, gone to support a female led superhero movie. We don't really get a lot of those, y'know. And if this does well enough, who knows, maybe they'll give Milly another go at a solo Kara film in the future.
I’ve spent as little time around that side of discourse as possible. I do think it’s fair to wonder, if Supergirl and Clayface (a gamble of a movie) both perform poorly, whether or not new WB ownership will second guess this “DCU” model. But, I also tend not to like fans talking about movies like they’re producers or investors, lol.
It’s a little bit of both. Obviously, Snyder bros are trying to poison the well as much as possible. But also, two movie podcasts that I listen (The Big Pic and Breakfast All Day) gave it fairly negative reviews, while trying to be somewhat charitable. I guess times have changed because it feels like this would be something that would have just rolled of something like the MCU’s back 10 years ago and now it’s being framed as, The Big Pic framed it, the death rattle of comic book movies when it feels like Gunn has just gotten started with it and there’s still gas in the tank.
So, I saw this today. Overall, I enjoyed it, and I really strain to imagine how someone could be bored by this movie, but that's not for me to understand. I've never read the comic that it's adapting, so I don't have a frame of reference for what could have been, but if I was just going by the script, I think I understand why someone would immediately think of trashy, barren worlds for what are supposed to be outlaws and mercs terrorizing the poor and downtrodden. Is that cliche? Sure, and maybe having a super colorful world with that kind of activity would be an interesting dichotomy and deconstruction of this very idea, but I understand why they went with what they did. It does feel very Guardians and Mad Max at times, I get that DNA, but there hasn't been a Guardians or Mad Max movie for a while so I'm not bothered by this film occupying that same space. And I get the decision to not adapt Krem as is from the comics in favor of having a more interesting design. Whether you find the design interesting is beside the point, really. As far as the film, I liked Alcock's take on Kara being sort of messed up from the trauma she's been through and even though I don't think she came out of the film with a clear direction, I think the fact that it ended with her willing to find a direction for herself to be a good enough hero's journey at this point. I liked the bit when she told the musicians to keep going because "It's like the Titanic". I also liked the bit where after that one family died, she went up into space and screamed her frustration with everything. I feel like we don't see heroes take themselves to task enough for their fuck-ups and it's nice to see that here, a bit of humanness. And by the same token, I liked that she killed Krem herself rather than let Ruth have that weigh on her shoulders. I like the idea of her being the hero that does that for people, so they don't have to. I found Lobo entertaining and even though I agree he didn't really add anything to the plot, he also didn't detract from it for me and it's a nice bit of world-building to have him here and he also offers a mild counterpoint to Kara, who is trying hard to keep Ruth innocent and Lobo is just laughing and applauding. I also read that I guess Lobo was originally going to be in the comic this adapted? Neither here nor there, but an interesting factoid. I don't think "The Middle" was the right choice for the final battle needle drop. It didn't fit the action as well as I think they intended. I think I get what they were going for, but it just did not work. I did like Clark being a counterpoint to Kara. Clark is all smiles and milquetoastness and Kara is just a glum chum crumbum. All in all, I thought it was a solid entry. Not as good as Superman, sure, if we're ranking, but I think it definitely deserves less negativity than it's receiving right now. There have absolutely been worse movies, and I'm not saying that as damning praise. I thought this was legit a good movie!
I’m just spitballing here but maybe they also went away from the more colorful source material to differentiate it from the main Gunn Superman films if those are defined by their bold, bright colors.