Those moments were great in that we glimpsed how as siblings they could actually help and support one another, and it’s in that that Kendall finds a reason to survive/keep fighting. I think in the “after the episode” feature, Armstrong says it’s likely the first time they’re “aligned” since teenagers
It would be interesting to see how long that “connection” lasts, I’m sure we all assume not very long lol. Easier to come together when you have a common enemy but once Logan is out of the picture (in this hypothetical) they’d immediately be what we’ve almost always seen but it was very nice to see them bond like that! At the end it was also very telling/interesting seeing Roman on the ground closing in while Kendall had his hands on his shoulders and was supporting him while Shiv walked away. Obviously she was dealing with the immediate impact of seeing Tom, but I imagine that’s how they were as kids when things went bad - Ken helped Roman and Shiv was on her own
Kendall's "I'm the oldest child" with Connor sitting right there was definitely one of the highlights of the episode for me. And then Shiv and Roman both blowing off Connor's concerns, and then the three of them just never even giving Connor a single thought when they went into action trying to save their stake in the company.... great stuff
I think there's a solid chance that next season is about the process of the sale, SEC hearings, etc where the kids are trying to torpedo the deal before it goes through.
right. but Connor's outburst, the way all three of the other kids responded to him - it definitely shows that the whole "Connor isn't involved with business discussions" is probably something that has caused/been caused by a lot of underlying resentment that stems from Connor sometimes getting treated like he really isn't part of the family.
Connor is a dipshit but the anecdotes that pop up about him taking Kendall and Roman on outings when Logan wasn't around, and his "I didn't see dad for three years" in the last ep were pretty sad.
Keep coming back to that Kendall confession scene. Whatever weird shit Jeremy Strong has to do, let him do it, because jesus christ that was powerful. His delivery of "it's fucking lonely, I'm all apart" has been haunting me since last night. Loved how true-to-character Roman's reaction was too. I kept waiting for the moment he said something genuinely heartfelt, but of course the best this sociopath could do to comfort his brother was crack jokes about the dead waiter. It was heartwarming and appropriately twisted all at once. Can't believe a show exists that can move me to tears and also deliver lines like "Eighth in line? Greg, you marry her and you're a plane crash away from becoming Europe's weirdest king!" that make me pause and giggle like a child. There's never been anything like this show.
The Sopranos and Mad Men laid the groundwork for every prestige show to come after, and were just as good at blending comedy with transcendent emotion.
Yeah, this definitely isn't the first show to do that and not even the best to do it, but probably the best that's out right now.
Oh for sure -- I probably went too far with "never been anything like it" -- love both of those shows and they definitely did a great job of blending comedy and emotion (Mad Men's my favorite show, not putting Succession on that level overall yet). But whereas those two shows made me laugh a lot, Succession is consistently the funniest thing I'm watching including straight-up comedies. And though it takes a lot from the prestige dramas of the past, there's something about Succession's tone that I can't quite put my finger on but strikes me as super unique. I guess it's the balance they strike between lowbrow/highbrow, the blend of outrageous humor and elegant Shakespearean (hate saying that but it's all I got) pathos.
Do we see a different side to Connor next season? As he would see it as weakening his presidential chances if Logan sold?
to be fair there’s multiple versions of that poster. The one I’m looking at right now on HBO Max has a different lineup
I felt like the part where Roman joked about how he was the real victim for having problems getting a drink and Kendall finally laughing in response was when the tension finally broke for me in that scene. It felt like the start of Kendall coming back to himself. So in a weird way, I feel like Roman was almost more comforting for him than Shiv. I felt a little bad for Connor that he asked Willa to marry him and after like a full day or however long it was that she takes to think about it, her final response is "Fuck it", with the air of someone who's giving in to going on a crazy outing and not, y'know, marrying someone, and yet he's so genuinely excited.
we saw bits of self-awareness with the character this week that we don't usually get but then he goes back to being a shithead the first second he gets what he wants willa's face as the camera lingered when she got in the car says it all
I think next season should just be what they’ve doing since it happened, all living independent lives but are stronger as a family now that they don’t have the same thing to compete over. Eventually skarsgard gets in some shit and the board thinks putting a roy back in charge would create more stability. The opening scene has to be Greg sitting in the vip part of a nightclub with his arms around women, wearing tons of expensive jewelry, sunglasses and grills tho lol
yeah im skeptical the effects of this bringing the family closer together are that lasting, considering it didn't work
They’ll blame each other and Tom and Greg and Logan before ever looking inward and reckoning with the fact that they’re inflicting the abuse they suffered from Logan and Caroline on those around them and that as loathsome as he is, Logan is partially right about them being morons who should try to do something meaningful (though Logan’s definition of what that might be is warped and terrible) Hopefully it stops Shiv and Tom’s baby plans, because when Shiv came away from a conversation where her emotionally withholding mother said she should have never had kids and immediately told Tom they should have a kid I was horrified
the way she wipes her chin after downing the champagne / drink at the wedding made me laugh more than it should have. Just such a moment of not caring what you look like or who see you spill (god forbid!) while being super tanked because you regret your decision an hour earlier was great