Seeing all of the Stranger Things fandom obsess over the subtext of various lore inconsistencies, only to realize the writers just actually weren't paying attention, is very funny to me. Context: The prequel play showed that Melvald's was a diner Henry used to go to before it became the general store Joyce worked at, so people speculated Will talking about "Milkshake's at Melvald's" and enjoying "Getting lost in the woods" in his coming out scene, were signs that Vecna was posessing him, but uh, nah.
Feel like that play is only vaguely canon, especially after learning it was rewritten after its trial run.
still don't get what henry was doing out of the lab during his high school years, was that in the play?
I think it was written with the intentiom to become plot relevant to Season 5, and then the Duffers got bored and were like "nah".
She’s awesome! I wish they have her more to do. The fight was great and set the stakes well for a new antagonist, it just didn’t go anywhere.
In the play it showed Henry started High School before he got posessed by the mind flayer & murdered his family, so I think he was just a tiny looking freshman lol.
We don't know for sure if El died. They left it to the viewer whether to believe Mike's theory. At least that's how I'm understanding it. That's what I meant by ambiguous.
so then the show retconned that because in S4 he was ~12 when he already had his powers and killed his sister and mom and S5 he was a ~8 when he found the russian spy in the cave and got possessed. dumb that they even did the play then.
Is the mind flayer an organic creature? If so does he procreate? Does it stand to reason that there might be other mind flayers out there… Honestly I’m kinda fine with all the stupid unrealistic things that happen after the ending, like the military just going away and Hopper just being a cop again. That’s how a lot of movies and stuff were in the 80s and this was clearly inspired by that so why not?
But it doesn’t make sense if she died. If she was standing at the gate and unable to use her powers due to the “kryptonite,” how did she talk to Mike in her mind? She couldn’t have. So, how did she do it? How was she able to use her powers? If she was physically there at the gate to die as we “saw,” how can that be explained? There’s really only one answer.
Also… Like, yes, for Mike and the kids, it’s ambiguous. But the audience actually is shown El alive. So, yea.
I think if it were meant to be unambiguous, the Duffers would have already confirmed it like they had to explain that Nancy and Jonathan broke up heh
Assumption wasn't the correct word to use on my part. After reading your post, it's more of a presumption that we were left with
So, we just ignore what the show showed and told us and assume the writers didn’t think through the ending for their main character? Ok.
"There is a dimension with monster dogs" "Wait the dimension with monster dogs is ruled by an entity called the Mind Flayer" "No wait actually the monster dog dimension and the mind flayer are actually all controlled by this evil psychic guy" "Wait actually what we thought was the monster dog dimension isn't really. There is another dimension on top of that dimension where the evil guy, mind flayer, and his monster dogs live" "wait no no hold up. What if the Mind Flayer actually controls the evil guy and not the other way around??" The most obvious making it up as they go along show since Lost.
They're illustrating Mike's story lol that doesn't mean she is absolutely, without a shadow of a doubt, alive
My cynical read of this is they gotta keep it vague, even if it’s the obvious thing in the world, because they gotta keep her in their back pocket to show up for a spin-off. It’s just pop culture at this point where nothing can be dead or up to interpretation.