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Well one thing we’ve seen is once a gate is opens it kinda closes on its own but it’s like a healing process where it’s very weak and sensitive so I assume she opened it for one, it began the healing process, and contacting the upside again re-opened it even wider than before

 

Thread getting stranger than the show

 

The difference between what we see at the end of 4.7 and the shot in the trailer for volume 2 is drastically different. It would seem it heals relatively quickly. This idea would suggest that despite the visual aspect closing quickly, this gate in 1979 remained open until 1983 and was only closed a year later in 1984 at the end of season 2.

it just doesn’t quite add up with what we’ve seen.

 

blocking spo is lame, feuding with him only makes you a stronger poster

 

Shouldn't have defended the Chicago episode ig

 

Jonathan's literal only purpose this season was to facilitate stoner humor lol

 

I stand by it! Much better than multiple storylines this season too, and I like this one a lot!

 

I don’t remember why I blocked him. I generally have a good reason to actually block someone rather than engaging or ignoring.

 

Nancy / Steve was better and it seems like they’re really making him suck to enforce that.

Argyle got more annoying each appearance

 

Yea… he is kind of wasted in this season. Separating him from Nancy, allowing both to interact with different characters was a good idea. They have been paired up every season. But while Nancy got to explore her dynamic with Robin, Johnathan has primarily Argyle, and then Will, and Mike. Argyle is (so far) a one note stoner humor/supplier. Will exists in the background, moping. Mike is also mostly just there, also moping. It’s not a fun time.

Where Robin and Nancy have an interesting dynamic from being Steve’s ex and his current female best friend. I only distinguish her as a female friend because I think Dustin is his actual best friend. But Nancy viewing Robin as a likely love interest for Steve and maybe being jealous is an interesting dynamic they played with. While I’m not a fan of the idea of Nancy going back to Steve, it’s clearly back on the table so I hope they keep it interesting at least.

Having Nancy and Johnathan both feel conflicted of the other makes sense. It does feel they are on different paths now. Johnathan isn’t career or goal focused necessarily, he still wants to go to college and advance but that comes second to the responsibility he feels towards his mom and Will and even El at this point. Where Nancy is clearly driven and focused on furthering herself and using her skills and insights to seek truth and to help others. In this way, a break up feels like the natural next step as their future goals don’t really align.

but maybe, assuming, that Joyce comes back with Hopper and he commits fully to her, Johnathan can set aside his feelings on being responsible for the rest of his family and trust Hopper to pick that up and allow him to realign with Nancy. Even if that doesn’t happen, and they do break up, it doesn’t mean Nancy has to get back with Steve. She shouldn’t be made to feel the need to have a man. But if they decide she needs to have someone, unless they introduce a new character, Steve is the likely candidate.

 

This is basically what Vecna’s doing

 

I enjoy all of the characters this season except older brother and stoner kid. The El storyline is pretty dumb so far too. I "get it" from a plot/storytelling perspective, but get the gang back together baby.

 

Whenever two characters were talking and they put on the sappy music I rolled my eyes in advance. A lot of the emotional dialogue was not hitting and they tried to do it so much.

Max’s introspective moments were done real well by comparison, having a threat near by seemed to help.

 

El storyline is worse than Russia

 

He’s going to have to save someone’s life in front of the town or he’s gonna end up with a job at the secret lab in Nevada.

 

Maybe after that massacre they restart the lab with different kids, lot can happen in two years.

 

i dunno about that. One manipulated El by pretending to be a fellow victim and prisoner. That he alone has her best interest at heart and is trying to help her. He wants her to join him, but he is not using anyone death to manipulate her.

He claims those he massacred are not truly gone but have become a part of his mind, but that was through direct violence, not manipulation.

as Vecna, we see him torment Chrissy over her mother traumatizing her over her weight and general appearance. He then uses this trauma to frighten and weaken his victims before forcefully killing them and we can assume become a part of him, like those at the lab. There’s no manipulation here. It’s direct attacks on the mental side of her and then the physical. She’s not tricked into joining him.

With Freddy, Vecna uses trauma of an accident where he killed someone as his target to torment him. Poking at his guilt of “murdering” someone. Again, no manipulation.

With Max, he used her trauma over losing Billy and her guilt of inaction in the moment. At no point in this does Max feel tricked into joining him. She is resisting the whole way. Facing her trauma head on. Vecna uses the death of a loved one here, but not to manipulate, but to cause pain.

Patrick, uses the trauma of his abusive father. Again just forcefully takes and kills him.

I would not say Jason is doing the same thing.

 

Excited for the reveal that 35-year old Jason is actually Max's dad

 

Yeah this is what I assume happened as well

 

El’s story in the last episode I loved, it just took way too long to get there and all the superhero stuff before it was cringe.

Could’ve done it in one session instead of all that “we have to be careful she could explode if we reveal her backstory too quickly” shit.

 

I thought the lab flashback stuff was wonderful.

Then again, I’m a huge LOST fan and I’m a sucker for trips into the past that reveal a show’s mythology.

 

Or they do make Jason more like Vecna and actually have Jason kill Eddie or manipulate someone else to do so. I don’t see him working at a lab.

but 8 was there with powers before the massacre. So that can’t be it. Along with the insight we learn from One that these kids are Brenners attempt to recreate him. So her having different powers do not make sense at this point. But, more could be revealed.

also it’s 4 years. 1979 is the massacre. Will goes missing in 1983.

 

i had to look up who jason was, that character was beyond dull

 

I think it’s more likely that One is El’s father, at least strictly biologically speaking.

There is a lot. It worked for me, but that’s fair.

yea, same.