Spider-Man: Homecoming (July 7, 2017) Movie • Page 85

His personal victory was believing in himself and who he truly was when he got himself out of the rubble. As well, his moral victory of despite being enemies trying to warn Vulture and saving his life.

 

The disappointing part of that fight was that it was mostly a CGI fest that felt like a CGI fest.

 

Yeah, my feelings towards this film have gotten more mixed and critical since I first saw it, but something I still really like is how the Peter and Toomes stuff resolved.

 

Agreed. I liked it less when I watched it on blu Ray. But I do like their dynamic and how Peter deals with him.

 

Spiderman had to make a choice between his personal happiness (letting the Vulture go, going to the dance with his dream girl) and doing what is right (stopping the Vulture). This choice between what is "right" and "personal happiness" is one of the key themes that Spiderman constantly grapples with (ie constantly sacrificing his relationship with MJ so that he can be a superhero). So much of his character is having to choose between being happy with his family and making sacrifices to better the world around him.

For any 16 year old kid choosing between these two things is difficult. The movie showed us that he is capable of making that choice, which is essential in building his character. When I think about all of this, I start to appreciate "Homecoming" even more.

 

One small issue ... the Vulture was right and justified. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯.

 

Exactly! I felt like their should have been a scene where Vulture said "Your asshole boss put me and my guys out of a job! Why are you on his side?"

 

Haha, yep! The rich man fucked the working class! After that scene I was like "GO TOOMES! FUCK IRON MAN!"

 

I do like that Stark's narrative since Age of Ultron has been one that I can't root for. I just wish that he weren't simultaneously still Marvel's biggest character, still played by the endlessly charismatic RDJ. Civil War and Homecoming do good work showing him to be wrong, but they still play him as a charming, likable dude.

It's gonna be interesting to see how Infinity War and Avengers 4 portray him, and how that lands with me. If he really gets how he's effed everything up and ultimately dies atoning for his sins, I'll dig that. If there's too much "oh look how sorry he is, his mistakes are something he's gonna grow from," that's gonna be pretty tough.

 

I didn't get the after credits scene at all?

 

One has the shocker ask about Peter's identity, with the feeling that Toomes isn't going to reveal it. The other felt like a joke at the audience for waiting until the end for nothing.

 

You didn’t need to spoil tag this movie anymore.

 

From what I gathered he'll be Scorpion? I had no idea about that scene til I just read comments now and saw the tattoo on his neck after

 

Someone just saw it on this page and spoiler tagged it, figured i'd play it safe?

 

If they move forward with that character then yeah, i'd expect him to be Scorpion.

 

It’s been out since July...

 

Unless there is a specific "no need for spoilers after X date ima play it ear to ear.

 

Spiderman lifts a lot of rubble.

 

Was just trying to be nice because I saw a post on the page with spoiler tags, guess there is no need for such thinking beforehand. Hope to see you in The Last Jedi thread when I come home from seeing it next Wednesday night.

 

I mean, if someone hasn’t seen a movie 5 months after release , they clearly don’t care about it enough to care about spoilers. Especially when they are in that movie specific thread.

In general, the Saturday or Sunday after a release generally ends the spoiler tags.

 

i Just saw this recently too and really enjoyed it, tom holland was great. loved gilfoyle as the teacher/club moderator.

 

I agree up until the point he accidentally murders Shocker and just kind of laughs it off without caring. And then he is more than happy to murder Spiderman, even after learning hes just a kid who his daughter is into. If those aspects of the movie were left out, though, then it would have been a much better movie, making you really question who is right or wrong here. And THEN Zilla's "why arent you mad at Tony" line would fit in great and make for a much better movie.

 

If Vulture was just profiting off the tech for good reasons that's ok but are we forgetting he was selling insanely murderous weapons to common street criminals lol

 

Nah that's silly. I still haven't seen any of the Thor movies but I've been meaning to.

 

Nope, not forgetting that.

And "common street criminals"?

We see one sale go down to a man trying to make ends meet for his family ... (the Prowler).

(People sell insanely murderous weapons all the time. Including our heroes and who are heroes work for. The leader of the Avengers works/ed for the US government, heh.)