Spider-Man: Homecoming (July 7, 2017) Movie • Page 41

I also will just put something on in a PIP window or just on while doing other things ... if I've seen it before a lot ... for fun, like background music. I've seen Batman Begins a billion times that way.

 

I'd take Iron Man 2 over Civil War.

 

Do this quite often while either going to sleep or playing guitar for whatever reason. Kind of fun to have your jam session influenced by changes in the theme of a movie.

 

That's just silly

 

I just don't think Civil War is a good movie. It hasn't held up for me at all. Overstuffed, heavy handed, nonsensical, and at least IM:2 is stupid in its fun.

 

Same. I'll binge stuff I have seen before at times and other times I'll watch a to mm of new stuff in a row.

 

Reallllllly? I honestly thought you had been a fan/looking forward to Civil War around that time period on here? What don't you like about that movie so much that you'd pick Iron Man 2 over it?

 

Everyone in this thread has me thinking I need to rewatch winter soldier

 

It's fine. It's just not very good. Plot holes abound, bad/flawed/non-existent character motivations, overstuffed, bad dialogue, bad internal logic, the best scene is just a CGI "battle" with really no stakes, and it's still kinda the only thing worth watching in the film.

WS is way better.

 

I think Civil War is fine, but I agree, WS is indeed way better.

My biggest problem with CW is the ending. I remember the first time I saw it, when the credits rolled and I was like, "really?"

 

I think I've seen IM1 or Guardians or WS the most .... and those would be my favorites. Ant-Man sits in the weird spot of me enjoying it, I've watched it quite a few times, and I leave every single viewing wishing Edgar Wright directed it instead.

 

Iron Man 2 has Sam Rockwell
¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

I think the Thor movies, Cap 1, Dr Strange, Avengers 2, IM3 are from who cares these exist to awful, but I'll watch Avengers 2 from time to time for fun. Cap 1 and the Thor's I think are worse than BvS and that it's not even close.

And I always forget the Hulk was a movie.

 

Yeah, the villains are not that bad in that movie to be fair. It's got a few cool scenes too. (It's way better than IM3 at least.)

 

Gun to head I'd at least watch Cap 1 over Suicide Squad ... but I'd pick Jurassic Park 3 over Cap 1 and that's saying something.

 

Good points.

I just felt relieved that everything stopped going so smoothly. The whole concept of Civil War is really what I loved about it. The good guys actually being held accountable and I liked that at the end of the movie, you really can't just side with Captain on all of it. I liked that while the main conflict was between the Avengers, Zemo was a very grounded, human character finding a way to destroy the Avengers mentally as opposed to physically.

Some other pretty great parts of the movie for me were:
Black Panther, who I didn't pay attention to as a character before that movie and am now excited to see more of.
The Winter Soldier losing his arm.
Action sequences aside from the montage fight that were up to par with Winter Soldier. (Intro chase with Crossbones and Bucky whooping everyone's ass)
The twist of Bucky killing Tony's parents.
Tom Holland's Spider-Man

Faults I try to ignore:
-Hawkeye, Wanda, and Vision's completely useless arc, with Vision criminally underused.
-Tony suddenly having the guilty realization people died when a city crash landed on the planet, conveniently as the Accords come up.
-No explanation how Cap broke everyone out of an underwater jail.

 

I find Chris Hemsworth's Thor to be extremely grating both physically and mentally, just putting it out there. Aside from a few one-liners, I do not ever buy that character or Loki even for that matter.

 

I don't mind discussing rankings as long as I'm not told I'm wrong -- it's an opinion -- or it gets personal. So have away.

As for First Avenger...

I love the throwback feel to it and I don't think there is a greater moment in these movies than Cap tearing onto the streets of Times Square.

 

The opening of CW was pretty bad. Shaky camera like hell. It looked so bad.

 

I really love Cap 1. It does a lot for me.

 

For me that's also where it fell apart though, I never felt like anything was out of hand, never felt any stakes for any of the characters, and knew it would all be tidy'd up in the next 20 minutes. The central argument and conflict of the characters never felt truly argued/described/given, and the proxies for both sides I never felt did a good job showing the audience why they were right/why I should care. (And the main "villain" was both the smartest person in the world and the absolute dumbest at the same time. The execution of his plan, I still roll my eyes thinking about it.)

I mean, kinda ... but the injury is fixed with tech immediately and a "call me if you need me" phone call scene didn't really leave me with a feeling of accountability for any of the characters.

And then given the moment to actually destroy the Avengers, he picks the most ridiculous way ever and leaves them the most obvious "out" possible. There were a billion better ways to play out his final chess move, and all of them would have been more obviously successful. I'm watching the movie going, "yeah, if I was a super-villian, I woulda just ended the Avengers."

Definitely a highlight. Would have loved to see more BP and Scarlet Witch, who I felt was underused. But, damn, even I forgot they shoved him in there until right now. Haha, and it's one of my favorite parts of the movie.

I hated that scene to be honest. It's shot too close, no feeling of space, time, or where everyone is compared to the others, and the music was downright horrendous.

Heh, I saw that coming a mile away, and it goes back to how simply keeping Cap/Bucky separate the moment they walk into the final scene, woulda ended the Avengers. Setting up the most basic scenario to separate Cap, and make him watch Tony kill Bucky, and you win, game over. Heh.

A welcome addition, but I still hate the immediate technologization of Spidey's costume (and not a big fan of parts of it in general), wasn't a big fan of Aunt May, and thought Peter should have more of a sense of right/wrong instead of immediately just being on Tony's side because he looks up to him. Didn't love how that felt tacked on. But, his action scenes were my fav.

 

I need to watch Civil War again.

 

Cap 1, where you just gotta kiss the girl while you're speeding toward a plane you then gotta murder people on and definitely have to crash land in the ocean cause script.

 

I love his Thor. I think he's perfect as that character.

 

I can't tell if I don't like Thor because of Chris, or I don't like Chris because of Thor. Either way, I find his parts of the movies skippable (unless he's Deus Ex'ing for whatever reason), and truly hated his solo movies.