Spider-Man: Homecoming (July 7, 2017) Movie • Page 18

Kimmel gets all the trailers!

 

really excited for this trailer. hoping this movie isn't a spidey/tony team up. I'd like to see Peter get to be the scientific genius and not just get presents from his rich friend haha.

 

It's almost like the channel he is on is owned by Disney! This is madness!

 

Who'd a thought those web armpits would become a reasonable theatrical reality? What a time to be alive.

 

but didn't he get the DC trailers too?

 

I honestly don't pay attention to those. I couldn't tell you. If so, what I said still explains him getting all the marvel ones. That's what I was referring to, such as in this case.

 

Maybe DC trailers get released in Kimmel's extended cut.

Joke never gets old.

 

yeah, he got the BvS trailer that spoiled the plot of the movie and showed the creature that was suppose to be Doomsday.

 

It doesn't. That's why the call it the Extended Universe

 

Stoked for the trailer. Liking the wing suit.

 

Oof. My concerns with how they handled Spidey in Civil War seem to immediately bleed into this.

It took about a year for people to finally admit Avengers 2 wasn't good, can we talk about the flaws in CW yet are is that still being protected by the Marvel army?

 

What was it that you didn't like about Spidey in CW? That movie definitely has its flaws, I've found the first half to be a struggle to get through on repeat watches since the Cinema. I do absolutely love the Airport scene onwards, however and the movie as a whole. Didn't have any big issues with Spidey though.

 

The big one is the same thing as the trailer: he's given his suit and the hyper tech of the Marvel world gets used as a deus ex machina all the time now. When Tony can just swoop in and fix everything with tech, time and time again, it becomes a crutch so obvious that when he doesn't do it you now notice.

 

*Window smashed* Thanks, Jason! Haha.

 

I'm not crazy about Hogan being in this movie. I hope Iron Man doesn't take over the entire film like he did in Civil War, I won't be happy if this basically ends up as Iron Man 5.

 

Hahah.

I'm still holding a grudge about how little I cared about Rhodes in CW because super tech was there to basically fix him in no time. I dunno, I think they got themselves in trouble with having to one-up the "cool tech" in each movie, and now it's spiraled so far out of control that it gets them in trouble story wise as well (Avengers 2 has some weird uh, shouldn't you be able to do this____" moments).

 

every flaw the honest trailer of Civil War said was true. I had fun watching Civil War, but left the theatre very underwhelmed. there's no real stakes. they're barely arguing with each other. cap should have died. I loved the portrayal of Spidey and happy to have him in the MCU, but I really want him to be the science nerd. have him and Tony nerd out together if you want, that's fine, but as i think i said earlier in the thread, i don't want him to just get presents from uncle tony. I want to see him do things for himself.

 

I should go watch the honest trailer, and I totally agree about the science nerd part. I don't want him to have hologram projecting computer whatevers they showed at the end of CW. The scrappy kid trying to get by and make money and live is way better when it's not "uh just go sell whatever chip is in that thing and you can live for probably a month" — I am going to start using this "Uncle Tony" thing as well. Haha.

 

(I am pro under arm web wings.)

 

Rhodey definitely should have died in CW. I said that first time I saw it.

 

100%. Hate how overly safe all of the Marvel heroes are. I hope that all drastically changes with Infinity War, and all the heroes realize just how small and fragile they are in the face of people like Thanos.

But it won't.

 

They could have at least made it appear permanent and that there was no easy fix for it, or a fix at all.

 

Exactly, he's not a huge character, but it would have definitely added more weight to the conflict at hand between Cap and Stark.

 

The lack of stakes in Marvel movies (and a lot of superhero movies) is always disappointing. You don't even necessarily have to kill someone. Civil War's ending would've been much better imo if the Avengers really imploded and seemed broken up, but they had to have a scene of Cap writing an apology letter to Tony and him about to break the team out of jail. I suppose that would've been too grim for a Disney/Marvel movie, but it would've been more impactful.

 

Is anyone at all concerned about Disney doing the same safe, wheel-spinning type of stuff with Star Wars? I know Lucasfilm is different than Marvel, but the conflicts between Edgar Wright and Ava DuVernay on their Marvel movies were with Disney, who wanted to reign in their more ambitious vision (granted, Edgar Wright's was pretty out there, but he's Edgar Wright). Disney/Lucasfilm hired Colin Trevorrow. Ryan Coogler's Black Panther aside, I'm not exactly excited about the future of Marvel and Star Wars under Disney right now.