Spider-Man: Homecoming (July 7, 2017) Movie • Page 12

Miles Morales IS a new character. Introducing a new Spider-Man is more akin to introducing a new Jedi than a new Han Solo.

I am largely the "people" you're referring to. My problem is that throwing a Miles into the Peter film we're getting would be a terrible mistreatment of the character, reducing him to a background "black friend." Making Miles the protagonist and putting an older Peter into the film in a supporting role would be a fundamentally different decision.

 

I don't think anyone's stated that.

 

I guess just because he has the title of "Spiderman" it's perceived a little differently, even though he is an entirely different character.

I don't think anyone would want him to be a "back ground" character if he was introduced.

 

Tim said he mentioned it, I knew I had read it somewhere on here. I understand not wanting to delude the character to a side character. I think if they were going to do him here, there could be a happy medium but I agree more with give him his own movie with the animated one.

 

Spider-Man, Black Panther, and Wonder Woman were background characters this year that made people hyped.

Granted, they have upcoming solo films, but Peter Parker had 5 prior solo outings. Rocky Balboa had 6 before becoming a background character in Creed. Luke, Han, and Leia led the franchise for 3 films before becoming background characters. Mad Max had 3. People claimed they would have been less mad at Ghostbuster had it featured old cast members as their old characters passing the torch; if true, that would have been based on only 2 prior film appearances.

 

Sorry, I meant I was agreeing with you that I don't think anyone wanted him reducing him to a background "black friend". Black Panther, Spiderman and Antman were all the stand outs in Civil War for me. Was Black Panther a side character though? To me he had a complete story arch, unlike Spiderman and Wonder Woman.

 

That would actually be really cool.

I have never really supported SM being part of the MCU. I think he works better as a solo player than part of a connected universe. I liked him in Civil War even though it felt tacked on and maybe a little out of place.

Re-canonizing the Raimi films as a way to introduce Miles Morales would have been a great way to introduce the character.

 

That's such an interesting idea. I think they did so much stuff right....but then Spiderman 3 would also be canon.

 

Black Panther was less side character than Spidey or BvS's WW for sure. I guess a better description would be "supporting character" (which is mostly a semantic issue, I'd say). Much like Black Widow in every film appearance so far, Hank Pym in Ant-Man, and my suggestion for Peter Parker in a Miles Morales film. Integral to the film, but not the star.

 

I'm so happy with the way they set up BP. Now when his film comes out we don't have to spend any time with his origin. I wonder if Claw from Age of Ultron will be a villain?

 

They definitely wanted to actively pursue blackness in the first Black Panther film, as seen with Michael B Jordan as the villainous Killmonger. So, probably not. Though, the comic book Killmonger's backstory is tied to a past Klaw invasion, so he could pop up via flashback. Maybe a future film will use Klaw more prominently.

 

I knew about Killmonger, I just wondered if Klaw will maybe just play a small part since he has already been set up. Kind of like Crossbones in Civil War or Scarecrow in The Dark Knight.

 

I don't think they were actively pursuing it as much as it is simply inherent to the nature of the character(s). I think it's pretty likely that Serkis and Martin Freeman's Everett Ross show up here as well. Both certainly make sense in terms of story and linking to Killmonger.

 

90% Of The Black Panther Cast Will Be African Or African American

That sounds like actively seeking to me.

 

I always forget Martin Freeman is in these and it's always a thrill to be like hey it's Bilbo

 

Or hey it's Doctor Watson. I feel like I watch Sherlock significantly more than the Hobbit!!

 

Those episodes are like 1.5 hours long so I've never watched it. Had no idea he was in it.

I do remember him as the sex scene guy in Love Actually

 

I stopped watching Sherlock in season 2 because the episodes are so long, haha.

Seriously though, he's the guy from The Office.

 

Forgot he was in that. I need to go back and finish it after the US series

 

Can we talk about how Martin Freeman and Bendedict Cumberbatch have now been in three franchises together? Haha

 

but the Hobbit movies are like 3 hours long and mostly dreadful

 

When tv shows are that long I feel like I might as well watch a movie, and so I do.

Plus regardless of their shortcomings there was some good in those movies

 

Your life will be better if you watch Sherlock and never watch those awful Hobbit movies again.

Okay, to be fair, you can still watch both. And they aren't awful movies, just average. And sadly falls incredibly short of the standard the OT sets. I wanted to see more of the OT and way way less of the Hobbit movies. They would have made one, possibly two, great movies. But we got a solid movie worth of filler. It's just depressing. Not to mention they are visually inferior and just feel fake vs the OT.

Anyway, watch Sherlock.

 

Sherlock is basically just 3 movies each season. It's awesome.

 

I'd be fine with the length if I didn't get bored during every episode.