Spider-Man: Far From Home (Jon Watts, July 2, 2019) Movie • Page 18

I really do think it's misdirection or it'll be contained to this movie. I just think they risk too much of the more casual audience if they lean too heavily into it as a big part of the MCU going forward. This smells a lot like the Mandarin.

 

Doesn’t he say Earth-19616 which just makes it more confusing

Edit: just relistened, ignore me

 

Help the ignorant: 616 is the main timeline of most comics right? Why can’t the MCU be that? Because it contradicts some things? Don’t the comics too?

 

The MCU has a designated number already. Earth 19999

 

It contradicts ... a whole lot of the MCU.

 

Lmao Sony messing up numbers again

 

Again? Curious what else they've done lmao

I wonder how much control Sony has over a line like that vs Marvel in these studio collabs and if it really is just a Sony fumble

 

I ... don't think that's on Sony ... who just got the entire multiverse right.

 

That’s a great point

 

Lmao that's a very good point

 

Sony got the years in homecoming incorrect and multiple directors for the MCU said it was wrong. If the directors knew that then I don’t think Kevin wouldn’t have gotten it wrong.

 

Good point. The same creative team that was behind Spiderverse aren’t behind FFH though. One could goof while the other didn’t.

 

Seems like something an executive producer in charge of the overarching story should catch. And if they/he's actively choosing to use 616 ... he can catch a big fat "boo" from me.

 

I mean, only the number is wrong, and the numbering in Spider-Verse is questionable too (the Miles and Peter in Spider-Verse are clearly not from 1610 and 616 respectively).

It doesn't matter anyway, because there's a 95% chance Mysterio is lying about the whole thing.

 

Hopefully it’s just false footage? Just a headfake?

 

No, Peter B. Parker in Spider-Verse is very specifically said to be E-616, they show the graphic when the collider starts up.

• E-14211: Home of Gwen Stacy, Spider-Woman
• E-90214: Marvel Noir, Home of Spider-Noir
• E-8311: Larval Earth, Home of Spider-Ham
• E-14512: Future Earth, Home of SP//der
• E-616: The Marvel Universe, Home of Spider-Man

 

The universe number system is technically supposed to span all media. So, like, the Fox X-Men films have a number, video game worlds have numbers, the 60s animated Spider-Man series has a number, etc.

In all fairness... As much as it pains me to say... Into the Spider-Verse DID kinda do the same thing. On the screen during the collider stuff, I'm pretty sure the main universe was called 1610, Peter B. Parker's was called 616, & Gwen's was called 65.

 

I still think the most plausible explanation is that Mysterio is full of shit and not really from another universe.

Probably a not-so-subtle nod to the comic fans who are well-aware there's no chance Mysterio is a good guy in this and that he's nothing but misdirection, while still tricking the casual movie fans.

That's what I'm hoping anyways but we'll see

 

Yes, it says that. Yet things happen in Peter B. Parker's life that don't jive with actual 616. And if you're gonna say those things just haven't happened YET in 616, still doesn't explain Miles being from 1610 despite DEFINITELY not being canon with 1610

 

I know, that's what I just wrote above. That's 616 Peter.

 

But then that means Sony DID mess up the numbering in that movie because we've also heard that Peter B. Parker is a combination of a bunch of different Peters

 

That is correct. They didn't happen yet.

Miles' "canon" has changed six billion times at this point that I can't even keep track. 1610 is all over the damn place.

 

That ... doesn't change him being the 616 universe Peter or not. He very easily can fit in. (Tom Holland given what's happened in the MCU, can not.)

 

Uhhh, just saw another commercial with stuff I hadn't previously seen...

 

If he's a completely different character from the Peter who is in the comics, how can they both be from the same universe?