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Sexism/Feminism/Womanism Discussion Thread Social • Page 99

Discussion in 'Politics Forum' started by Melody Bot, Mar 13, 2015.

  1. tw: rape

  2. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    sweet sweet fantasy baby Platinum

    anyone who fat shames a young woman who openly struggled with ED and substance abuse can fuck off and die in a fire, it's not okay with anyone but that's particularly vile
  3. K0ta

    wrap yourself in petals for armor.

    Anybody who goes after my girl needs to get hit.

    She went through so much and is still out here doing it, they can fuck right off with that shit.
  4. Nathan

    Always do the right thing. Supporter

    Last night on Game of Thrones, Maisie Williams had a nude scene. Relatively tame by the show’s standards, but still explicit nudity. I felt weird about it since she was 12 when the show started (I believe she was 20 when the scene was shot, and 22 now).

    She said she was in control of what was shown and what wasn’t, so I don’t want to take away from her autonomy, but given the inherent inequalities in Hollywood nudity and power dynamic of 30-60 year old male directors/producers working with a 20-21 year old actress in a sex/nude scene, I don’t think the situation is quite in a vacuum.

    I didn’t have a problem with the narrative of the scene, but the on-set reality and my honestly not knowing how old she was when watching last night after primarily knowing her as a literal child did make me uncomfortable. Is that unfair of me, since she is an adult? And was at the time of filming? I don’t want to infantalize her but I just automatically have concern about most onscreen sex/nudity (it’s incredibly rare for any actress to have the control Maisie did, and there’s a different expectation and standard for men in sex scenes). And I have trouble with the age thing too, since she was 11 or 12 when the series began, but I don’t think I would have had the same issue if she had a nude scene in a movie unrelated to Game of Thrones. Genuinely asking for perspective.
  5. You say you don't want to infantilize her, but it is exactly what you are doing. You would be okay if she had a nude scene elsewhere because the director didn't work with her when she was a child, is that what you mean there? Were you ever as uncomfortable with rape scenes (Sansa and Dany) from the show as you were with Arya's scene? What about Tommen and Margaery? Tommen is under the age of consent! (13/14 in show v. 21/22 for Margaery). Did you have a problem with Maisie being a child when she was still filming killing scenes? I get that you're okay with the consent of the scene itself, but I find that your concern is over the top here because at the end of the day, Maisie herself was comfortable doing this scene. Not only that, but you having such a problem with it also undermines Maisie as an adult and actor.
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  6. Brian R Muldoon


    All isms are not equal.
  7. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    sweet sweet fantasy baby Platinum

  8. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    This is an issue I can never rly pin down how I feel. My gut is to be like ok no our bodies aren't commodities and its not empowering to sell and objectify them. But then I hear positive stories from ppl who've done sex work and I don't wanna dismiss that. I just feel like the number of ppl who have a positive experience of sex work must be so vastly vastly small compared to the number of women it harms. I don't think sex workers should be punished or treated badly but I also can't get on board with the narrative that it's empowering for women. It may be personally empowering for someone but for women as a whole, it's not I'm sry. For like the small percentage of privileged women it benefits and empowers I feel like there's countless more who are suffering. At the end of the day men are still consuming our bodies and I just can't reconcile that in my brain but I'm open to learning more about it. This is an area where I always feel kinda old fashioned and prudish. I don't have a problem supporting sex workers and I think police are a huge threat and danger to sex workers so I don't think cracking down on that is helpful but i just don't know what to make of all of it
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  9. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Religion affiliated hospitals shouldn't exist and it's bs when it's the only hospital in the area. Forget abortion, you can't even get your tubes tied at the Catholic (and only) hospital here. It should all be illegal af.
    Shakriel, K0ta, Keri and 1 other person like this.
  10. In recent months I've stopped moving out of the way on sidewalks if I'm on the right side and there are people coming towards me in my line of walking. Today there was a group of four people taking up the whole path and I didn't move out of the way and it was a guy who was walking in my direction. He just expected me to move and then when I didn't it forced him to move out of the way of hitting me. Never even looked at me coming, just the expectation that I would be the one to move even though he was clearly taking up all the space.

    Btw this can work with anyone, doesn't have to be just men. But it's interesting to see who will move out of the way for each other and who is used to others moving for them.
    RJ Knorr, maryp1603, bigmike and 4 others like this.
  11. chewbacca110


    I do this all time. I live in Chicago and run. I'm 6'4 so if you don't see me coming that's on you.
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  12. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    sweet sweet fantasy baby Platinum

    Whoopi's shown her internalized misogyny before and it's a bummer
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  13. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    sweet sweet fantasy baby Platinum

    I had no clue that's why she wore baggy clothes, being a teenage girl is enough of a nightmare imagine being that famous
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  14. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    sweet sweet fantasy baby Platinum

    Men are gross
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  15. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Men were a mistake
  16. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    Also loving this headline since I'm used to seeing it the other way around and women described as so and so's wife

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  17. K0ta

    wrap yourself in petals for armor.

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  18. iCarly Rae Jepsen

    sweet sweet fantasy baby Platinum

    I love how they always make it clear that they're awful at sex
    Also does he not realize that babies become adults
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  19. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    How many women posters who are regularly active are left on the forums? I feel like the numbers are dwindling.
  20. bigmike, iCarly Rae Jepsen and K0ta like this.
  21. personalmaps

    citrus & cinnamon Supporter

    Martina lmaooo

    Jk jk. I wish there were more women though!
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  22. EASheartsVinyl

    Prestigious Prestigious

    I didn’t want to be the one, lol.

    Also me!
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  23. K0ta

    wrap yourself in petals for armor.

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  24. K0ta

    wrap yourself in petals for armor.

  25. I’m here forever
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