When he lost his mind and got full monster strength, the thought I got was that Millchick is unhinged and fucking done with both Lumon and the innies. He isn’t switching sides, he’s pissed at all the fuckers that are making his life hell.
oMark didn’t necessarily cover himself in glory either. i agree iMark is being selfish with his decision making but oMark using bullshitter voice 101 in the recordings didn’t necessarily help
Walking out the door is death for innie mark so he chose not to die even if it means he only lives a little longer? Doesn’t seem that weird of a choice to me
Helly R hates Lumon. She told Jame him and his family will rot in hell. She’s tried to kill herself or get out of being an innie since day 1. She said her goodbye to iMark and helped him finish Cold Harbor. I don’t see her having a last minute change of heart for what they both know will be maybe a few days at best together holed up on the severed floor before their outties have to return to the top.
I think this split might come from people not considering their viewpoint as inherently logical and not very heavy oMark biased. If you think oMark is the only real one, it makes sense for iMark, a not real entity, to do whatever he needs to do to help oMark’s story. If you put yourself in iMark’s shoes as a real living person, it’s not hard to see how he didn’t kill himself to help someone he only knows as a stranger who shares his body.
I for one am glad that I can enjoy a television show, about a procedure/concept that does not exist in real life, without worrying about the logic of the character's decisions, especially the ones that only exist because of it.
well duh lol no one is saying that is complicated but to what end? to be tortured by lumon? to have the one person he makes this decision to live for taken away from him to run the company and make his life hell? they aren’t going to just let helly stay helly and then chill with mark lol. i get isn’t willing to kill himself, duh, what is the endgame though? they’re going to kill him or make his life worse than death anyways
no one is saying they don’t enjoy the tv show lol you can enjoy a tv show and still acknowledge flimsy storytelling. same this site always does when people get mad others don’t like the same albums they do in the music forum.
I think if I knew for 100% certain I would be “reincarnated” essentially, and the alternative was being tortured forever, I would!
It was false resignation to her fate and acceptance of losing iMark. When she stood on the table and gave her speech to the band people, she had realized that she is as deserving of a life as an outie and was no longer giving up from that point on. Again, it’s a last few days yadda yadda for someone looking at it like “they’re innies, what do they expect?” but, for an innie, it’s instant death or fighting for more time in their life with someone they love.
It may all end up very dumb in the end and not make sense but the story isn’t over and just gotta wait til season 3 to see the fallout. but from a motivation and logic perspective it makes more sense to me for innie mark to stay.
Patrick when did I say you all arguing about this didn't enjoy the show? I very clearly made a comment about myself.
fwiw him choosing to stay isn’t really what i was talking about. from a character perspective that makes sense. storytelling/writing, not so much, but there are other issues
Why would they torture him? Where is that coming from? I think innie mark making a rash decision at the end fits his character.
i don’t brush up against the Mark stuff nearly as much as I do the Milchick/marching band shenanigans. Same kind of ~random~ energy this show has a habit of taking on in the name of vibes that never reads as anything other than empty and void of purpose. Even more confusing to hear people describe it as Lynchian lol other than that good finale
He knows what they were doing to Gemma, which is part of why he goes through with the rescue plan. I’m using “torture” loosely but that’s basically what they are doing to her. Why wouldn’t he think they would do something similar to him?
notoriously chill lumon who had its seemingly business-defining plans foiled by a guy who also killed an executive (? who was drummond ?) going to just be fine and throw another egg bar party for the guy when they find him?
The stilted, poorly paced, laugh-track-backed Vaudeville routine between Millchick and an animatronic lit by a spotlight as people who are very likely about to die watch on frozen in the dark is very Lynch. The marching band dancing isn’t.
it also seemed lsss like him choosing life broadly and more him choosing life with helly specifically, which has no endgame longer than five seconds
I agree with Pat about Milchick, and all I can think is that there must be something we don’t know about him. The decisions he makes don’t make a lot of sense otherwise. I’m curious as to how he found himself at Lumon and the journey of his career there