in defense is an actively bad album that anyone only remembers because gerard way and hayley williams ended up on it.
The thing about IDOTG is it was still cute and fun, when you listen to it, Max still has charm. Ecstasy, Church Channel, Shiksa, Blur, About Falling are legitimately awesome/enjoyable songs to me. Shrug.
At 30, In Defense has a lot more skips than it did for me at 20, but I’d still rank it in my top 3 for the band.
S/T is the only SA album I really got into. In Defense was cool just because of the novelty of a double album in that era.
If In Defense was just a long single disc album like some of those early Coheed records I think it would have aged better. Died a Jew, R In Love, and a handful of others could be wiped from existence and I think it would be a better album. But the “if in defense was shorter it’d be as loved as IARB” argument has been done to death since the absolutepunk days so I won’t ramble more. Haha
S/T would have been an absolutely perfect record for me if the property > stung > birthday run was replaced.
listening to IDOTG for the first time in full and i fucking love this so far. i didn't really like what i heard when i was 18 but i get it now.
- crazy how good Max (and the band) sounds here - everyone looks so young - how many people have performed in this band?
It's even better acoustic but then you'd have to put up with Max's face searching for it on Youtube The verses are really fun to play on guitar heh
It sucks that SA and BN were my most covered bands whose songs I spent a lot of time learning, god damn it. It has made my high school/college YouTube channel very problematic lmao.
thats very fair, those songs are just so good that it makes the rest of the album worth it because the rest isn't *bad*, it's just painfully mediocre
I’ve always loved the original acoustic video of Max playing That is Why before it became a bitter break up song
My Say Anything fandom peeked summer of 07 watching a version of that performance and about falling from the same show on repeat. I was so excited for IDOTG, which I actually like for what it is despite having no real desire to listen to the band for quite some time
Listened to some of In Defense today, I don't think it's bad just idk.. meandering? Isn't grabbing me