Saosin - Along The Shadow (May 20, 2016) Album • Page 90

Hard disagree with this and I even think some of their newer work would be that much better with some great lyrics and vocals attached.

 

I love their last two albums and can’t wait for pt2 of Every Sound Has a Color…..however Doug and them were perfect. Would still love him to be in the band

 

I completely forgot that Tilian did a demo or two with Night Verses lol

 

His shittiness aside, I never really "got" Tillian and why he always seemed so in demand for so many bands

 

Was he so in demand that he struck out with Saosin, Night Verses, and Emarosa?

I do find it somewhat interesting that he tried out for all three of those bands, some demos leaked for all three (gee, I wonder who must have leaked them ), and they all decided not to move forward with him

 

Tbf I liked the Emerosa demo a lot but yeah fuck both Tilian and them

 

Everything that’s happened last two years aside, I think he was best fit for DGD’s funkiness and paired with a secondary vocalist in Jon. I think out of all the other potential options, a Saosin album with him that attempted to recreate the big album sound could’ve been cool.

 

To each their own. I never loved Doug’s melodies and I feel like the instrumental albums really allow each member to shine, and I think they get a little wilder than they would have if there was a vocalist.

 

yeah i could hear his voice over saosin's riffs. that would of been cool to hear had it happened!

 

It would not have lol

 

Y’all can look back in hindsight at the Tilian stuff and joke, but his last album with Tides of Man ruled, and he got 4 albums deep with DGD before people started questioning his style and if it had grown stale.

 

Not me, I always thought he sucked. I liked some songs on Mothership but even then I couldn't stand him for a full album. I was desperate for a new DGD singer way before the stuff about him being a wankstain came out.

 

I always was hit or miss with DGD. Never checked out much of the stuff Tilian did with them until 2019, but I only ever got into a handful of songs they did with him. Thought those albums were just as hit or miss as everything they had done before. His voice really became grating when he started straining it more on Mothership and onward.

 

Ooh I loved when his voice started to break a bit more. Mothership was an immediate instant classic for me and acceptance speech pulled me right back in after the Kurt era, which I didn’t really care for.

I don’t think they started to sound stale, I always feel that description is a little unfair for various reasons, and I was impressed they never started to dilute their sound. had they not been bad people I was really looking forward to them continuing to grow.

that said, if anyone has an itch for a more palatable band in that vein, the I Met a Yeti EP that came out last week is great.

 

Yeah I really didn’t feel it until the newest album, but it’s obviously being viewed through the lense of everything that happened. His lyrics on that one on a few songs are super cringe, and he had some odd passages, like on Lost, that kind of alluded to him being “edgy” that I didn’t really care for.

I loved that iteration of the band though. Really sucks he turned out to be a terrible person.

 

His vocals were great back in the day, then started to decline sometime around Mothership. There's def been some revisionist history based on the revelations last year. His stuff with ToM was gold, and the Saosin demos honestly sounded really promising imo. He's a dick, his lyrics often suck, and the partnership probably wouldn't have worked out for other reasons... but yeah.

 

I crumbled under the pressure of this thread and listened to self titled again, I don't get what you hear in it. Half the time Cove sounds like the same metallic shit Matty Mullins does and sounds unnatural, and his voice just isn't very good. I probably would only keep Sleepers, Come Close and Bury Your Head but still would prefer them all as instrumentals. Anyway, marking for myself to never listen to this whole album again. You're Not Alone is such an absolute pile of flaming trash, I hate this song so much.

Might fuck around and listen to that other Cove album though

 

Jfc

 

That's the magic of a forum like this. I'm all for everyone having opinions on music and being able to discuss them, especially opinions like this one that are absolutely terrible.

 

same, same, same

 

To me, that album bridged a gap between catchy, light pop rock/punk stuff and heavier metalcore-ish albums that had harsh vocals. When I was listening to it a lot, I felt like I was getting the instrumental heaviness of the latter with the catchiness of the former. I can understand it not quite clicking as much if I didn't have nostalgia tinted glasses.

 

if the Collapse drum intro doesn't make you feel like you can run through a fucking wall and come out unscathed you're dead inside, sorry to say

 

I had a memory that musically it was still somewhat heavy, but there's only a few tracks I would consider even remotely heavy

 

do you mean the chugging guitars in the intro? Because the drums are... not wild

 

Am I nuts for putting Bury Your Head near the bottom of the S/T rankings?

Have never quite understood the love. At least half the tracklist is essentially similar to TTN instrumentally, but that song strikes me as boring, midtempo nu-metal. Then you have some pandering syrupy stuff like Finding Home and You're Not Alone, as you'd expect on the major label debut. Outside those, I don't see much dropoff from TTN to S/T instrumentally. Maybe the production is coloring your opinion there?