Ryan Adams Band • Page 8

I also think one of the messed up things from Ryan Adams' "response" to this is how he and his representatives failed to actually follow up and be clear with Midnight Amplification. MA clearly tried to reach out multiple times to RA & co. to settle this but they just provided non-answers and slimy business practices. Don't really see how this is defensible imo

 

He sells one shirt, which is just a standalone t-shirt design. He doesn't sell t shirts with his pedal designs on them. There is a distinction to be made there. There is NOT a shirt with this design being sold by MA, nor any shirts with pedal designs on them, therefore he did NOT lose any potential sales over this. I feel like I'm taking crazy pills here, this IS a case of Ryan stealing a design, NOT a case of Ryan suppressing the prosperity of another company. Now if the dude wants to sell t-shirts like this, he can. But he wasn't. He lost nothing.

Listen I get it. I can definitely see why someone would be put off by this, and I'm not one to tell others how to feel about anything. I'm just saying, your declarative ultimatum for people to stop supporting him over this seemed a little much.

 

Just go complain about it somewhere else. We get it. Your point is established. Lets move on.

 

My bad

 

Not you dude.

 

My bad

 

Actually one more thing. I kind of change my mind because the argument that SHOULD have been made is that the dude could have been getting a cut from Ryan's sales. Those ARE potential earnings that he missed out on. I respect that.

but that wasn't the argument posed so w/e



Anyway, preordered the album.

 

I do think Adams was probably a jerk here but I was skimming thegearpage thread about this and I actually lol'd at these:

Midnight Amplification Big Riff - Op Amp Big Muff V4 V5 circuit

 

another case of fans of a musician tripping over themselves to defend someone clearly in the wrong, good on y'all

 

All you do is berate people with a holier than thou attitude. Its obnoxious. Go find a better hobby.

 

You can think they're both wrong, you know.

 

sorry i was actually interested in news that relates my profession to a musician i'm familiar with! ack how terrible!!

 

Yeah i'm generally speaking here.

 

Ryan Adams fans are kind of weirdly dedicated

 

what witch hunt will he go on tomorrow

 

Hey coffee

 

Hi

 

The goons of the music forum.

 

I feel like most devout fans of something are dedicated to whatever or whoever it is. Re: Kanye

 

I mean, you're not wrong but there should be a line. I'd think stealing would be that line.

what a weirdly unnecessary post

 

It's just one thing to report news on the thread. I get that. Its a shitty thing. Maybe theres more of a story. Probably not. But to just continue to be condescending to anyone with an even slightly different opinion or to go as far as to call them a racism apologist is just asinine.

 

I'm not particularly dedicated to Ryan Adams but my bar for an artist losing my ear because they're not a great person is a lot higher than mildly screwing over someone who is guilty of more or less the exact same thing. I'm assuming none of those posts were directed at me cuz if you aren't feeling some schadenfreude upon seeing Midnight Amplification's side business as a gear cloner you aren't having the most fun day you could be.

 

It's not. You like using that verbage a lot though.

 

I actually don't think they're both wrong

I think the dude is in the right
I think Ryan is very much in the wrong

But I think EngineDown's arguments were wrong

I thought I was being pretty transparent about that

 

Why are we goons? What Adams did was shitty. Pat called him out on in and I agree that it's shitty. Calling us "goons" is just dumb.