I'll be that asshole - if SoCo doesn't play Konstantine at Riot but they play it at the after show I will be bummed out
I was literally just thinking that. I would assume they close a stage on Saturday and they’d play Konstantine. But if they don’t, it’ll probably be close to the WWWY set and fuck that.
I just checked the two Anaheim show set lists and fuck, I will definitely be traveling to one of the other cities for that tour. Only because of how much of North they played those days. While I love everything, North holds a special place in my heart forever.
If they get an hour, they will play it.. the WWWY set was like 30 minutes but they played it the day before
the more we know and heavily speculate the more excited im getting for what they may have cobbled together, because there is not single regular booking yet: slayer (reunion), SoCo (reunion), Sum 41 (final tour), NOFX (2nd to last show ever) and then just the speculating: sublime (reunion/reformation with deceased singers son), ween(album play), mastadon (album play), power trip (reunion/reformation), RKL (reunion), and there may be more im forgetting now none of these are exclusive to riot, but them potentially getting all/most them shows that artists see it as a cool thing to be a part of. also shows that even though so many newer fests are popping up that each try to take a bit of riot's corner, they still can be a singular entity that no one else can really recreate.
While I agree, I still firmly believe that Riot Fest needs to start getting out of the "punk/metal/hardcore" pigeon hole and really open up to more indie and alternative acts if they want to sustain as those acts are pushed away from Lolla and not all will want or be asked to play Pitchfork.
I'm not convinced Sublime plays this year - Sublime with Rome plays the Chicago area a week before Riot, it doesn't eliminate them and it may still happen - but on the surface, it'd be a bit odd I hope I'm wrong, Jakob sounds awesome. Also Riot needs to just keep being Riot (slightly diverse - but punk ethos leaning), Chicago has like 37 other music festivals as it is
That's effectively what I'm saying. I'm not saying they need a mid 2010s Lolla undercard but they do need to slightly diversify more.
I’m gonna say something, and then I’m gonna duck as you all throw shoes through my computer screen. Olivia Rodrigo is out for Lolla, plays Chicago well outside of the radius clause and before the first lineup announcement. Would be a somewhat understandable Roots headliner on a day with Fall Out Boy (then have Sum 41 play right before FOB on the riot stage so the old school pop punk kids can pit to the old songs with some degree of separation from the younger pop fans) Anyone who was hoping for Avril Lavigne at riot fest can’t dig on Olivia. She’s an infinitely better songwriter, arguably less cringey, and only sticks out more bc the “emo” nostalgia train has recontextualized Avril as someone to be respected. It’d just be a fun, silly little set that gets new people in to riot fest & we can all chose to ignore it while other stages have bands like Mastadon, NOFX, or Ween playing.
I almost made a very similar post like three months ago but didn't feel like opening the can of worms. She'd headline in her own right, no question, and I'd love it, but I also think it's extremely unlikely.
I do think there are plenty of bands that would easily fit Riot’s vibe in that realm of alt/indie too. I know a few of them have played Riot already, but some more of that would be cool
Let's never forget the first outdoor Riot Fest booked Imagine Dragons.. also Jake Bugg was a pretty weird booking but Olivia Rodrigo or Carly Rae Jepson or Avril is probably never happening
I welcome more pop/indie stuff, obviously, but the genre that feels most obvious for Riot to expand into is country/Americana. Outlaw country has tons of overlap with punk in terms of attitude and ethos, and so many of the younger mainstream country artists came up on emo now. Ruston Kelly is an obvious crossover choice, but he's far from the only one.
Riot needs an acoustic/low key stage, a lot of alt country artists from punk like Jon Snodgrass, Joey Cape & Chuck Ragan would be perfect I think it'd be perfect for the return of the second small stage, plus you can add like 15 acts (or have someone booked on the other stages like Laura Jane do an acoustic set) to the bill for relatively cheap
They had a tent for something one year where I saw Sleep On It (I think?) play acoustic. Agreed that they should have an acoustic tent or something. Would be a neat way to do surprise acoustic sets from bigger bands too.
Still a bummer Riot didn’t go all-in with comedy. They could curate a solid comedy lineup. Hell, they could even do their own spin-off fest of comedy
an outlaw country stage combined with a southern gothic stage would be sick. some combination of orville peck, lucero, bridge city sinners, amigo the devil, IV and the strange, goddamn gallows (im not to hip to the current country so whoevere else would fit with that)