Riot Fest 2024 Tour • Page 2

No comments on people's tone when talking about the celebrations because I only can speak for what I am reading from people who have issue, but gridlocking the loop and many other areas and being quite loud and a nuisance to people trying to get somewhere or go to sleep is the main issue folks have, not that Mexicans are celebrating their independence. I think people would have less of an issue if the celebrations did not involve cars and fucking up traffic and sleep for everyone else.

 

Agreed on the dog-whistley tone of those complaining about the festivities. I stayed in Pilsen this year where they celebrated pretty loud and late in to the night and it was honestly not that bad. Wasn’t that bad when I was in River North last year or Wicker Park the year before that. Are there excesses noise wise? Sure. But I think the complainers would complain pretty much regardless of noise level.

 

Same thing happens on Independence Day but no one cares. Don't like it? Take a vacation that weekend if you have the means like I do every year for the Fourth because my dog hates fireworks.

 

Moving to a May weekend is a non-starter. You'd end up with a weekend of it being 50 degrees or even snowing.

 

Yeah, I think the only actually viable weekend is the following one. I wasn't even considering some other part of the summer.

 

To be fair, Fourth of July doesn’t have people clogging up streets causing major traffic jams and causing people to be in a standstill for hours. I think the noise is just part of living in a city, sure, but I see where people are coming from with the car aspect.

 

I personally don't think there is a big issue with the current setup, both on location and date. The other festivals leaving Douglass makes me think that Riot will be there for a long time going forward.

 

I do agree with them likely staying there at the park. The new permit process means there is more community involvement and while there will always be an amount of people not wanting it to happen, there wasn't much noise about it this year.

I did have to tell someone to shut the fuck up about how they should have opened the gates at scheduled time yesterday because "they have to re-sod anyway so fuck it up". I think what Riot Fest did was the right call and, while they will need to re-sod portions of the field, it was in much better condition than it otherwise would have been and the community will get most of the park back sooner than later as a result which is the most important factor for me.

 

Yeah, I'm very interested in the community response to this year. Agreed that they made the right call on Sunday even if it ultimately led to me skipping the day. The community vendors area was neat and I had some really good tacos from one of the places there on Friday, and booking bands from the neighborhood is a good look even if it's ultimately a small thing.

 

Security and crew were trying hard on Sunday, reminding everyone to treat the community with respect if they got out of line to go somewhere else.

 

Anyone else hear dogs barking?

 

Not even gonna dignify what that fucker said by responding to it.

for everyone else in here who was around back in the Humboldt Park days— how would you say the response to the fest from the Douglass park community compares to the backlash from the Humboldt park community?? I only started going in 2016 so I missed it but from what I’ve seen online maybe the community in Humboldt didn’t mind so much and the problem was with one Alderman? Is that fair to say?

I just feel like it’s increasingly impossible to act like the relationship with Douglass Park is repairable. They need a different long term solution

 

Others in here might remember better than me, but my recollection is that the resistance in Humboldt was both more vocal and more organized, and then the mud disaster in 2014 pushed things past the breaking point.

While the resistance from the Douglass Park neighborhood has definitely increased in the time it’s been there, I still don’t think it’s quite at Humboldt levels yet. The permitting process changes hopefully allowed more meaningful community input this year, and park cleanup will be a major factor as well. I’d love to see one of the local news sites do a deep dive on the response in a couple months to see if locals feel like this year was a move in the right direction.

 

Unrelated but anyone who went any of the days wake up this morning feeling the early effects of the Riot Flu?? Happens every time for me

 

Yeah I took a Covid test yesterday. Negative but still feel worn down.

 

Happens to me most years but this year I'm surprisingly good.

I think it may be that way because I was barely around the Rise stage

 

I was feeling not great on Saturday for a bit but have been good since and concluded it was from breathing in everyone’s vape, cigarette, and weed smoke

 

My dad got covid from the fest last year so we masked up in moderately dense crowds this year. So far so good but I'm not counting my chickens until later this week.

 

Only went Sunday but good so far. Got covid at it last year, likely from the MCR day.

 

The biggest difference in resistance between the two wards IMO is that the alderman for HP encouraged them to go larger while also drumming up the resistance in the neighborhood. It really came off as some typical Chicago political bullshit where he wanted the festival out so he encouraged them to get too large and piss everyone off. The rain only made it worse.

There’s no way they didn’t push back the start on Sunday without discussing with the Park District. I saw Water Management out there as well. Would love to see how the field recovers.

 

So spent some time perusing Wikipedia to figure out significant(ish) album anniversarries for 2024. I'm by no means suggesting that any of these are particularly likely (some are particularly unlikely), but figured it'd be good info to put out there for discussion.

I tried to include a good mix of punk, new wave, alternative, metal, and hip-hop, although my knowledge of metal and hip-hop are pretty limited. Any glaring omissions or ridiculous inclusions? (Spoiler: I'm sure the answer is 'yes')

45 years
Elvis Costello and the Attractions - Armed Forces
Black Flag - Nervous Breakdown EP
Stiff Little Fingers - Inflammable Material
Iggy Pop - New Values
The B-52's - The B-52's
The Talking Heads - Fear of Music
Siouxsie and the Banshees - Join Hands
The Damned - Machine Gun Etiquette
PiL - Metal Box

40 years
The Pretenders - Learning to Crawl
Anthrax - Fistful of Metal
Thomas Dolby - The Flat Earth
Minor Threat - Minor Threat
Black Flag - My War
Violent Femmes - Hallowed Ground
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds - From Her to Eternity
PiL - This Is What you Want...This Is What You Get
Butthole Surfers - Psychic...Powerless...Another Man's Sac

35 years
Operation Ivy - Energy
Pixies - Doolittle
The Vandals - Slippery When Ill
Green Day - 1,000 Hours
Faith No More - The Real Thing
The B-52's - Cosmic Thing
The D.O.C. - No One Can Do It Better
Testament - Practice What You Preach
Red Hot Chili Peppers - Mothers Milk
NOFX - S&M Airlines
ALL - Allroy's Revenge
Fugazi - 13 Songs
Ice-T - The Iceberg/Freedom of Speech...Just Watch What You Say!
D.R.I. - Thrash Zone
Bad Religion - No Control
Ministry - The Mind Is A Terrible Thing to Taste

30 years
Green Day - Dookie
Jawbreaker - 24 Hour Revenge Therapy
Jawbox - For Your Own Special Sweetheart
Nine Inch Nails - The Downward Spiral
The Offspring - Smash
Nas - Illmatic
Outkast - Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Sunny Day Real Estate - Diary
Weezer - Weezer
L7 - Hungry for Stink
NOFX - Punk in Drublic
Body Count - Born Dead
Bad Religion - Stranger Than Fiction
Korn - Korn
Melvins - Stoner Witch
Shellac - At Action Park
Millencolin - Same Old Tunes
The Bouncing Souls - The Good, The Bad, & The Argyle

25 years
Built to Spill - Keep It Like a Secret
Eminem - The Slim Shady LP
CKY - Volume 1
Choking Victim - No Gods, No Managers
The Ataris - Blue Skies, Broken Hearts...Next 12 Exits
The Bouncing Souls - Hopeless Romantic
blink-182 - Enema of the State
Ja Rule - Venni Vetti Vecci
Smash Mouth - Astro Lounge
Frenzel Rhomb - A Man's Not a Camel
The White Stripes - The White Stripes
Slipknot - Slipknot
Hank Williams III - Risin' Outlaw
American Football - American Football
Mos Def - Black on Both Sides
Fiona Apple - When the Pawn...

20 years
The Mountain Goats - We Shall All Be Healed
The Descendents - 'Merican EP and Cool to Be You
The Living End - Modern ARTillery
Modest Mouse - Good News for People Who Love Bad News
Slipknot - Vol. 3: (The Subliminal Verses)
!!! - Louden Up Now
Bad Religion - The Empire Strikes First
The Killers - Hot Fuss
Lil' Wayne - Tha Carter
Alexisonfire - Watch Out!
Guttermouth - Eat Your Face
Regina Spektor - Soviet Kitsch
Green Day - American Idiot
Le Tigre - This Island
Simple Plan - Still Not Gettin' Any...
Death From Above 1979 - You're a Woman, I'm a Machine

15 years
Big D and the Kids Table - Fluent In Stroll
fun. - Aim and Ignite
Muse - The Resistance
Brand New - Daisy

10 years
Against Me! - Transgender Dysphoria Blues
St. Vincent - St. Vincent
Sturgill Simpson - Metamodern Sounds in Country Music
Run the Jewels - Run the Jewels 2

 

Good god, I can’t believe it’s been 10 years since Transgender Dysphoria Blues came out. I feel old…

Same applies to RTJ2

 

Also, Betty by Helmet is 30 next year too

 

It will take something really special for this old man to go again - I guess we'll see but anyways

Nofx are probably a lock unless they do their own Punk in Drublic in Chicago, but Fat Mike seems to have a good relationship with Riot Fest
I'd go 70-30 on Green Day as a headliner, possibly even doing the two day Friday/Sunday thing like Metallica with two unique sets each day include album plays of Dookie & American Idiot

oh, and Pantera is 1000% out, playing with Metallica in July - so please with peace and love, don't even bring it up!!

 

Next year feels like a FOB headliner if they were ever going to do it. With the success of their album and tours, maybe they do Lolla instead. But the idea of being a year or so after their new album and multiple headline tours in support of it, I can at least see them taking the Riot offer.