Representation in Art/Entertainment/Media • Page 2

Still need to watch Sense 8.

Wonder what it was like for the latter out Wachowski to see her sister come out before her, like if she hadn't identified as a woman yet or maybe just wasn't as comfortable with being out. If the latter, that makes being forced to come out even worse than it already was.

 

1. Everyone watch Sense8 like, now.

2. I think it's a coincidence. Maybe there's science to it, who knows. But I'm very sad about the fact that she was forced to come out and had that moment taken away from her.

 

An added layer of terrible comes in when you realize that well-meaning, curious interviewers are going to ask them for their story too soon.

Like, as my post above suggests, I'm curious as to how that journey was for close twins who came out at different times, but considering the circumstances, asking any time soon would probably be in poor taste. Maybe they'll be gracious and emotionally prepared when that happens.

 

I wasn't aware that the first one had gone through the transition until after I watched sense8. It's a shame that the second was on the cusp of being "outed" and didn't get to handle things on her terms. (You'd think we'd be at the time in history where journalists would allow things like this to just go ahead and let be, but sadly, we're not.)

 

We're unfortunately in a moment where trans visibility = body as spectacle. People want to know what they don't know, starting with what's in your pants and when (not if, which is problematic) you're going to medically/physically transition.

 

There's such a stubborn concept and idea of gender being directly equal to body. And a very narrow definition of what gender actually is

 

!!!! The validity of a person's gender isn't tied to the way they express their gender, nor is it tied to their genitalia! I wish we had more representation of butch (idk if that's the right word? masculine?) trans women, and more femme trans men. Also. More nonbinary people who use nontraditional pronouns.

 

God I wish this was the case, but I don't really see it happening anytime soon unfortunately :/.

 

I think we'll see it in reality TV first, because that's where we tend to see non-normative identifying people first (again, as spectacle, sadly).

 

Another character was added to this list last night :( I don't watch the show but it sucks this happened again so soon since the last one.

 

It was a WOC as well. This shit has gotten completely out of hand. I wish more people would actually listen when we speak about this stuff.

 

So apparently the Bachelorette was originally going to be Caila who is half-Filipino and at the last second they changed their mind and went with JoJo (white, again). This was tweeted from the head of the series

And then followed by this

Ugh.

 

Their loss. I can guarantee that a half Filipino bachelorette would of created a big bump in viewership.

GUARANTEE.

 

@St. Nate I remember when the Juan Pablo fiasco was happening (my sister is addicted to the franchise) I said he was ruining it for any future minorities hoping to be on the show and I was kind of joking but I think it's completely true unfortunately. It's a shame that like, one person represents an entire large group of people, parts of which they don't even belong to. People have been calling out the franchise for a few years now. It's really absurd that they keep dodging this.

 

I do not follow. Even after a Google search of that man, I still don't understand other than that he used to be on the Bachelor.

 

sorry to go OT and i hope i'm not annoying anyone - the show doesn't deserve its viewership. i've been watching (not by choice heh, thanks mom) for some time and i have lost count at how much sexism/racism/homophobia/slut shaming/prude shaming has gone on. it makes me more and more angry every time. and some of those tweets by mike....just, no.

 

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/18/juan-pablo-gay-bachelor_n_4622691.html

 

@St. Nate I followed for a bit when I lived at home because my sister is addicted. He had sexual relations with one of the girls before the fantasy suite (they're "forbidden" from engaging in any of that stuff pre-suite) and was a huge jerk to her about it. He was just a really big jerk. And he slammed the process and basically refused to answer any questions at the live finale taping.

@lightning13 I don't disagree and wasn't trying to say it wasn't a problematic show. This was just something relevant and I felt it made sense to throw it in here for discussion

 

I didn't say or imply that you think that, just felt the need to get it out because of how frustrated it's got me haha, that's why I said sorry to go off topic cause I knew you were being relevant to the thread (and you actually point out part of the problem with the show by mentioning the lack of representation as well).

 

@lightning13 Do you watch/have you heard of UnREAL? It's on Lifetime. I didn't finish the first season yet, but it's basically critical satire of The Bachelor franchise and similar reality shows. Season 2 is addressing the diversity issue in reality television and even in the few episodes I saw from the first season they talk about it. Very interesting show.

 

Lechon manok is 5000% better, it's your loss b.

 

no i haven't but i'm gonna look into it now. thanks for bringing it up

 

So yesterday, another LGBTQA+ woman was killed off The Walking Dead. Yesterday was the 80th day of 2016. In those 80 days, 8 female-identified LGBTQA+ characters have been killed off television, which equals to one character every ten days. In 2015 there were 35 fictional female-identifying LGBTQA+ characters. 8 of them dying in 2016 equals one quarter of them being eliminated.

 

I don't know if I misspoke when I told you about that but the character wasn't a WOC. But still, this is pissing me off that it keeps happening. Variety and the Hollywood Reporter both wrote about it and the Bury Your Gays trope, I'll link them later.

 

Are there any articles/websites that talk about the overall ratio of characters who die vs the ratios of various demographics that die? The numbers are powerful, but I think a side-by-side comparison of, say, straight white men vs black men, LGBTQIA+ characters, etc., would be particularly powerful. (If this is already in an article that was shared, I'm sorry.)