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PWR BTTM Post Another Statement • Page 2

Discussion in 'Article Discussion' started by Melody Bot, May 18, 2017.

  1. Kingjohn_654

    Longtime Sunshine Prestigious

    Ugh. Why do I keep clicking these things when they make me so angry and sad?
     
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  2. aniafc

    Trusted

    ding ding ding, we have a winner.

    you think it's unfair that they can't win with a statement? what's really unfair is that they have sexually assaulted someone and now the victim has to live with that for the rest of their life.
     
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  3. Dust Of Fallen Rome

    Regular

    As that Pitchfork article said, queer kids deserve way fucking better than this, from the band themselves being predatory assholes to wet blanket bs statements like this one.
     
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  4. carrytheweird

    www.nrdc.org

    I am not familiar with the band and if the situation was as the victim explained, then they've had well deserved consequences that don't equal to what they/he should receive.

    My question is, if the situation were different and it was someone being accused of an action or fault they didn't commit, what is the right way to go about pleading that to the public?
     
  5. Kiana

    Goddamn, man child Prestigious

    This statement was fascinating. With a quick skim it might seem like they were taking accountability, but in actuality they weren't at all. They took a bunch of buzzwords and language from survivors and twisted them to suit their needs and seem sincere but really said a whole lot of nothing.
     
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  6. Merve

    Pennycan Champion

    A few points to ponder about this statement:
    - It contradicted their previous statement. In the first one, they said the allegations came as a shock. In this one, they said that they knew about them for a while. Which one is it?
    - They insinuated that continued communication with the survivor implied consent. That is not how consent works. Consent is not a long-term contract; it occurs in the moment and can be given or revoked at any time.
    - They didn't really address the other (less specific) allegations. They mentioned inappropriate post-show behaviour, but did anyone specifically accuse them of that?

    A statement like this might have flown if there were just the one accusation (and I'm as leery of the court of public opinion as anyone). But given that there are multiple accusations (and corroborations!), this reads like the band is trying to cast doubt in the reader's mind about the most specific accusation and hoping that the reader will apply said doubt to the other accusations, without actually saying anything to refute them. It's manipulative as hell.
     
  7. Steeeve Perry

    Trusted

    Honestly, whether people like it or not, the best way would be to flat out deny the allegations straight away. I think if Ben had done that, they wouldn't have lost so much support so quickly.
    Of course that's easier to do if you are actually innocent.
     
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  8. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    yup, it's much easier to deny it when there aren't a ton of people calling you out for varied incidents as well...
    they had no chance.
     
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  9. crunchprank

    crunchprank.net Prestigious

    I throw up a little in my mouth whenever that name is dropped. Dude is sick.
     
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  10. aniafc

    Trusted

    It's also easier to just...you know....not freaking do it
     
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