Publication End Of The Year Lists 2016 • Page 7

i mean my point is these lists are usually built on consensus. and the sites theyre being presented by are pretty catch-all with their approach, it's not like CoS has a genre it doesnt cover, you know? youre barking up the wrong tree if youre looking for a music general-interest site most likely staffed with 20 somethings and early 30s to not only hype up bruce hornsby but also have enough of an audience among that staff and then also be ranked highly enough by enough members to actually chart on their eoty list. like im not gonna get mad that every lsit will have chance, kanye, tribe, and thugger on it but less will have more genre-niche albums like yg or payroll giovanni or saba. theres only usually 50 spots and those are always gonna be the records that appeal to the largest possible audience on a staff. things will be missed. some albums you love might not be as widely adored either because they werent heard or because those writers just didnt like it the way you did.

 

still feels like the lists are a lot more homogeneous than ever between publications

 

It's not just pitchfork tho like CoS is a bland ass list too, I suspect fader and fact and stereogum will be more of the same. The only indie publication that has interesting year end lists anymore is gvb

 

Right. I'm not looking for a consensus across lists. But it's telling when it's nowhere.

 

There's more than 50 good records in a year. Wayyyyyy more

 

conde nast effect + every other pub catching up to them

 

i was just making a general statement: feels like there are far fewer "out of nowhere" artists pushed by things like pitchfork these days

 

I think so too, but I think it's mostly fine as long as the lists aren't homogeneous by genre or other.

 

So much for the death of monoculture.

Awards coverage in film has more or less had the same effect on the Oscars. Everyone seems to be listening to each other on what to listen to, making a little echo chamber. It's disheartening.

 

yall just stay mad at consensus built lists like the same thing doesnt happen whenever we do members lists or ap staff lists.

 

Oh yeah pitchfork doesn't break artists with BNM like they used to, the accolade became predictable and even when a relative unknown gets it it hardly does anything anymore

 

It does happen lol I've been critical of ap consensus lists in the past but you stay acting like you're the only one doing it

 

still makes it relatively boring of a season reading similar lists all of the time. was always fun seeing what some publications prioritized over others and there's far less of that now

 

They're genre exclusionary. There was no hype metal release this year so that genre will crop up on very few if any lists. Meanwhile it'll make up at least half of mine

 

Just hold out for Fact and TMT, those are usually goldmines at the end of the year for me. Those and RA but to a lesser extent since they only include 20 albums usually, the best tracks section however always has tons I haven't heard.

I also love The Quietus, usually will only have heard a tenth of that one haha

 

sadly oathbreaker didn't quite make it through.
i miss pitchfork's old metal coverage, hopefully we get a best of the genre on the site this year

 

Fact has been a bit predictable in recent years tbh. Some gems for sure. Like I said my new favorite every year is gorilla vs bear

 

yeah TMT is always the most unique one, really excited for that. so curious how high crying is on that after TMT gave it 5/5, haha.
that's how i got into Jlin last year

 

i feel like we have these exact same conversations every year

 

I've been wondering if we'll get a year end show no mercy now that stusoys gone

 

You don't have to participate

 

did we ever even get individual writer lists last year? i remember looking for them when the lists were out and couldn't find it

 

I think so but I could be thinking of 2014

 

I do like the individual writer lists.

 

i guess i just dont get why everyone gets so twisted up about something we all know the mechanics of. maybe if editorial staff were just pickign and numbering albums at will but afaik thats not what happens so im not sure what anyone wants from these publications. "like beyonce less and bruce hornsby more"? a lot of them do genre specific lists anyway, we all know the real gems are in the individual lists organized by byline