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Publication End Of The Year Lists 2016 • Page 32

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by cwhit, Nov 22, 2016.

  1. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

  2. Kennedy

    loomasleep.bandcamp.com Prestigious

    No Hotelier on p4k is kind of surprising
     
  3. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    not really
     
  4. Kennedy

    loomasleep.bandcamp.com Prestigious

    kind of surprising


    kind of





    kind of as in not crazy surprising but kind of
     
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  5. EngineDown

    formerly known as chill yoshi

    seems kinda crazy that there's nothing remotely heavy on there, guess stousy was really carrying that alone

    also, i feel like most years in the past, they've been a list i could check out for stuff i missed throughout the year. there were only like 6 albums on that list that i hadn't listened to at least a handful of times. kinda interesting to me
     
  6. brandon_260

    Trusted Prestigious

    Where tf was White Lung or dvsn?
     
  7. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    Predictability within a publication is cool. If I keep up with Pitchfork, of course the albums on the EOTY list are going to be what they hype.

    Predictability across lists is what I was referring to. Since there are so many lists out there, ideally what I would love to do is figure out which publication lists have the strongest slant towards things I like and find new albums they liked and I haven't heard based off of that. It's hard to do when the majority of the lists have the same consensus top 20 that I've heard already by following music kind of closely.

    A few of them, like Paste, Rolling Stone, and some of the rap specific lists have done a good job of that, but the majority don't and that's a reasonable criticism, I think. Some of the niche ones are really cool too, but are also daunting since I don't have any sort of baseline with those.
     
  8. Kennedy

    loomasleep.bandcamp.com Prestigious

    what are the best lists that have been posted in this thread that dont have like beyonce, rihanna, frank ocean etc etc in the top 10??
    nothing against those artist - id just like to see something different and honestly a lot of it just isnt for me.
     
  9. red8ge

    Regular

    lol, does alt press do a top albums of the year?
     
  10. Kennedy

    loomasleep.bandcamp.com Prestigious

    alternative press is the worst
     
  11. Chaplain Tappman

    Trusted Prestigious

    i mean i already kind of talked about this earlier in the thread. these writers work at like every outlet. they freelance, they have staff jobs, etc. thats a systemic issue stemming from problems with ad money and page views in general and then it dovetails into thefact that big name artists are the ones driving the clicks to begin with. if you want to find things these publications like that you havent heard you're probably not going to find many of them in lists literally designed to be representative of a consensus, but its not like they arent being written about. YG and Kamaiyah are everywhere on these lists, and if you dig into who wrote about them or the publications that did you'll probably find things like payroll giovanni and nef the pharaoh and the new e-40 album. i guess i still don't really get what people are looking for from these lists, the likelihood of finding a niche album on a list of 50 albums generated by tallying votes from like 20+ people you read for a full year doesn't seem very high to me. thats both a blessing (YG and huerco s and vijay sharing space on a list is amazing and probably wouldnt have happened even a decade ago) and a curse, because everyone is omnivorous these days theres gonna be more overlap and less specialization.
     
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  12. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

  13. brandon_260

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    Don't think White Lung was on the 100 tracks either and I thought Below was a lock at least.
     
  14. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    yeah i'm stunned, below seemed to be so heavily pushed this year
     
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  15. Chaplain Tappman

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    i dont think dvsn had the kind of widespread support among p4k staffers that would have allowed it to grace the top 50. i saw some pushback towards it in general on twitter
     
  16. brandon_260

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    Yeah, I know it's not as widely loved, but I thought it would be an obvious pick considering it got bnm and 4/10 of the tracks on the album got bnt. It seemed like a more likely pick than say 21 Savage or Kamaiyah (no shade to those two, I love them both)
     
  17. jdr2187

    jdr2187

  18. Chaplain Tappman

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    yeah i wish the process was less opaque, it's always interesting which non-bnm/8.0s make it over things that were better received on release. i'd like to look at individual lists more than anything.
     
  19. TheWater(s)

    Kiss The Sky Prestigious

    Had they not picked 21 I would have rioted
     
  20. Chaplain Tappman

    Trusted Prestigious

    savage mode shoulda been on their best ambient albums list earlier this year
     
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  21. Chaplain Tappman

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  22. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    How the hell did Nothing - Tired Of TOMORROW make 50 greatest shoegaze albums of ALL TIME when it was released this year?! And if that is the case how is it not even on the year end list?




    lol oh pitchfork
     
  23. OhTheWater

    Let it run Supporter

    Wayne's verse on Seat at the Table is soooo gooooooooood we don't talk about it enough
     
  24. cwhit

    still emperor emo Prestigious

    every time i hear that verse i just hear wayne trying to channel chance.
    it is very very good though
     
  25. Chaplain Tappman

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    lol cmon casey