Pop Music General Genre • Page 31

Cultural appropriation is def part of a lot of pop, unfortunately. She reminds me a lot of xtina. Lemme get real fake tan and change the way I speak to make my image more ~adult. It's just... Yawn. I didn't even notice how real the tanning got until she posted a pic where her face is like the same color as her orange jacket and I'm like damn sis. This is some xtina 2003 tackyness. Not absolving my faves since they have done/do it too (if I had a nickel for every time Britney says "urban") but it's interesting that it still happens so often despite more awareness now

 

I didn't necessarily mean to criticize Ari, minus the donut thing I don't have any real problems with her

 

I mean she is Italian

 

she also lampshaded it on SNL

 

I think you'd be harder pressed to find a popstar that hasn't appropriated. Which is a bummer. And not meant to excuse any of them since it all equally sucks. More like... Hey pop, do better.

Idk what her being Italian has to do with anything but I feel like she does it and isn't ever really held accountable for it.

 

To me it's not about the music so much (tho it can be an issue) as the deliberate image put forward, and the way popstars use a deliberate image when they try and break out of the child star thing.

 

I guess Iunderstand what you mean, but maybe off camera she always was the Ariana we know now. I mean she had Babyface producing songs for her on her first album and as far as I heard that was her doing, so that doesn't exactly sound like someone that doesn't know or respect the culture (*cough* Miley *cough*) but like a someone that is being herself as person that grew up with this culture. Like I said though, all speculation. I might also have a slightly different perspective this on this as a continental European. Hip hop culture took off over here immediately, but it became a culture shaped by immigrants (and non-immigrant white kids that are anti-mainstream) of all kinds.

 

Britney has done it the least but I'm sure she's appropriated, I think Mariah might have avoided appropriation too

 

Mariah is black and a R&B singer so that's not quite the same. Plus she fully embraced hip hop as soon as she gained creative control over her career, and even before that she fought for it like when she demanded the O.D.B. feature when her label was skeptical.

 

I think a lot of it is genuine pressure when ur a child star (I know zendaya talked about feeling pressure to be what she thought the fans wanted from her as a child) but when it's a white artist I'm always more skeptical.

I think u can be a poc and still get into some touchy areas with appropriation, like Beyonce saying she wishes she was Latina around the Latin music boom, Selena Gomez and her deal, etc but I think those cases tend to be a bit more complex

 

I think if the Outrageous video had come out as planned it wouldn't have aged well for Britney. I think it's def a line between appropriating and appreciating. Like I thought it was randomly aware for xtina to put out that song on back to basics citing all of her influences and the black artists who had done it first. That made it feel more like genuine homage, tho if someone wanted to criticize her and "blue eyed soul" I'd def get it and prob wouldn't disagree

 

I know, I was just thinking about how Beyonce and Rihanna both appropriated Asian culture , it's very complicated I know

 

looooove

 

wow that song is amazing

 

I can't get over how good that video is quality wise like wow so blessed.

I may have listened to the song a good 15 times today.

 

Bruno really had his pick of singles this era. Hit after hit on this record.

 

I always thought they would try and make Chunky a single but I'm ok with the Finesse remix tbh.

 

I can only expect it to be a huge hit

 

the only song coming out today that matters

 

B-rate Tay/Zayn

 

D-rate

 

Rita just.... isn't ever gonna happen, sorry girl

 

I heard g-eazy halsey yesterday, that was one of the most boring songs. So that's lower, someone rank these bad duets

 

Bad Things was the worst but then Havana was the best, you can't put Camila in a box

 

2018 will be Rita's year, she's going to release that sophomore album and it will be a huge success

Really I just feel so bad for her, there's no particular reason she doesn't happen,she has as many bops as Caesar, I get that she can be a try hard but she certainly isn't the only one