i mean if he was still in his prime he definitely would have been back, don't give nfl teams that much credit only reason he even was blacklisted from the nfl was because people actually saw video as well
this is kinda the point i was making. i don’t think he was kept off a team bc his ypc were in decline - that happens a ton. a player in decline uppercutting his fiancé on camera doesn’t. anyways we’re kinda losing the plot here. most athletes are bad bc the system they fundamentally are a part of don’t care if they are, as long as they perform. it sucks and it’s something i think about a lot as someone who spent a decade and a half as an athlete and continues to be a fan
To add on to this, don't forget that just the report about what happened was out which earned him the 2 game suspension. THEN the video came out which caused the NFL to react and suspend him indefinitely.
yup. as i said, the fact the NFL can suspend josh gordon for two years for weed but ray rice initially just two games is horrendous
The jury actually backed him and he was awarded money for abuse. So not sure this is a good example. There was no evidence against him.
So I don't fully understand this, but apparently RFC sent Darkness to IHeartRadio for release in December and didn't remove it when all this stuff went down? Anyway, it's the real recorded version. It's "out there".
Rightfully tagged as speculation but since that's the extent of what we know about the situation I figured I'd share here: reddit: the front page of the internet
Man, someone on that posts mentions that she blew up the comments on Evan's original statement. That's a weird look for someone "representing" the victim.
Sorry y'all, im just late to this band, I was going to check them out because I enjoy Half Waif, I did a Google search but the singers "statement" Dosent make sense to me. don't understand at all.
This seems short sighted. I would read this, and then come to your own conclusions. It’s much more convoluted than other situations that are similar in nature. Punk Talks, Pinegrove, and a Mishandled Allegation
regardless of what happens, until evan makes another statement he is still an admitted abuser and the way his statement was phrased doesn't change anything. just wait until he says something again
Had Old Friends in my head all day. Wondering when these guys are gonna make a come back now it seems things are on their way to being resolved with the victim.
on the pinegrove subreddit people were posting screenshots from a member of the band saying they'll be back soon
I've seen Nandi post lots of videos of her and Zack (they are engaged now) but nothing is ever mentioned about Pinegrove or Evan in any of the stories on IG anyways. So uhh that's my useless update I guess