Pinegrove - Skylight (September 28, 2018) Album • Page 15

God damn it. Ugh.

 

good for evan to acknowledge this and start on the way to reinterpreting his actions and making changes, probably good to cancel the tour so he can come back a better person

 

this is one of the cases where i think rehabilitation is fine to bring a person back into touring life, at least based on the post it seems like he's reexamined things in his life that he now knows he's done wrong and it wasn't something that was a continuous knowledge of abuse, it's about rediscovering yourself and making the changes needed to be good. definitely something needed to be done and i'm happy he's doing this the right way

 

That's how a situation like this needs to be handled. Glad he's recognizing his actions and getting help.

 

fuck

 

Yeah, my first thought is that that’s the best statement I’ve seen in a situation like this

 

I was going to say this seems like a personal relationship issue and I'm not sure why he would even need to tell his fans about it but then I got to " i could sense who from the crowd would be interested in sleeping with me based on how they watched me perform"

uhhhh yikessssss

 

Very disappointing news but it's a very well done, clearly thought out statement that shows that he's reflected about this a lot and wants to improve himself.

 

i'm sure a large amount of us on the site have done some things that might have been pushing consent boundaries and were interpreted in ways we didn't expect at the time but didn't mean any harm and weren't obviously trying to use someone solely for sexual gain and power boundaries, nobody's perfect, evan made a mistake and he's doing what he can to understand the mistakes he's made and learn from it. hopefully the victim feels the same way

 

good on Evan, but yet again super bummed. Also I take it there's a good chance we won't be seeing this album in March

 

at least he's acknowledged that and knows it's bad. that's something he didn't have to say but felt it was necessary and is going to rehabilitate and try to work on the way his thoughts process.

 

Yeah, I'm a white male, and seeing some of the stuff he mentioned really made me think, "Have I ever been like this before?"

 

This stuff is everywhere. I thought Pinegrove would be untouchable, but this is a real wake-up call.

I've not fully digested Evan's message but on first glance it seems the best of these kind of statements, and that his actions perhaps are not on the scale of others, but again that's without full context.

This whole thing lately is heart-breaking but also reflects how we all need to re-examine how our society currently works (sic).

 

i would like to see some women give their thoughts on this (though i know there's not a huge chance of that here based on forum make up). curious to see if nandi says something

 

Does anyone know what the original allegation was? This statement seems sincere and apologetic but I need to look for myself

 

haven't seen anything, if there is anything it's probably just going around in small NJ diy circles

 

i’m glad, at the very least, that he is taking responsibility for his behavior on tour. that is gross and needs to be something he changes.

the relationship part seems like poor communication in a relationship. which happens. i haven’t seen the allegations. again, i’m glad he’s taking responsibility.

 

hmmm understood. Just want to make sure he's not dancing around anything

 

Shiiiiiiiit

 

I think in cases like this, it's very relevant to look at our own past relationships and evaluate them. I have tried to do this earlier this year and I realised my past relationships I was slightly guilty of some minor things that I'm sure were down to ignorance and lack of communication.

The other stuff is a bit gross in terms of what was said, but it's good that he recognises that.

 

I mean...unless and until we hear more it really sounds like a horrible miscommunication between two people in a difficult situation. If we are going to ‘cancel’ all people who’ve ever been in a situation like that and not acted as properly or as thoughtfully as we should have we might as well nominate most of ourselves too, otherwise we’re more than likely being hypocrites. Humans aren’t perfect, all we can do is reflect on our mistakes and try to be better people, which I feel Evan is sincerely trying to do here. Taking his statement at face value, I think this is a case where forgiveness can and should be extended after a period of rehabilitation has taken place.

 

I respect him making a public post like that to something that hasn't yet really been known by any fans. This thread has some of the people that follow the band the closest and none of us even know about it.

I'm not sure I entirely understand what happened but it sounds like a women he had a relationship with feels that she was manipulated by a power imbalance?


Obviously like everyone here Evan was very ,very far down on a list of someone I expected to make a statement like this.

 

What actually happens shouldn’t matter and there’s no reason for anyone to try and put this statement under a microscope to figure that oit

 

the more i’m coming back to the statements about behavior on tour the more this is really grossing me the fuck out. god dammit.

 

I don't think it's meaningless to have more insight to the events. For some people the context and details could be the difference between dropping the band entirely or accepting his statement.

We surely don't "deserve" to know but it's not something that doesn't matter. Imagine if in the Brand New situation Jesse's statement was all we got from that event and had no public allegations.