Paramore - After Laughter (May 12th, 2017) Album • Page 13

I get your point. I don't think you're expressing it correctly and you're probably getting leaped upon a little unfairly for that but I understand.

I think Paramore is probably a bad example for the point that you're making though.

 

Like I'll be honest with you, I don't always love the results of when favorite bands of mine go in what could be considered as a "poppier" direction– honestly? I think maybe "modernize" their sound is a better way to put this kind of discussion based on the bands brought up– but I don't blame them for trying, nor do I think it's because the genre/style is inferior.

 

Yea it might not reflect too much on Paramore, but the lack of creative writing plagues pop music as a whole. There are exceptions, of course.

EDIT: There are bands that I love which also do this - the repetition of a chorus to lengthen the track, and I have no idea why it's done.

 

It's not to lengthen the track. That's an idiotic take

 

So repeating a chorus at the end of a song, multiple times, with no musical change, is for something other than adding length? I'd like to know what that is. I'm not speaking about Paramore right now.

 

so does most punk/pop-punk. lotta rap and hip-hop too.

 

Maybe it's for added emphasis? Maybe it's for a dynamic shift?

 

Emphasis, structure, feeling, reinforcing a hook, highlighting an important part of a song further for the listener, production, because it feels good, forward-thinking to a live setting, capitalising on the strongest moment in the song/moment writers are proudest of.

 

My favorite part of Call Me Maybe is at the end when they add that little extra guitar rift.

 

Are we for real at "repeating choruses is bad" lmao

 

Yea, I don't get this one. Also pretty sure no pop song has ever been engineeered to make it "longer", I would argue for the opposite first.

 

I know quite a few well regarded, well paid, pop-song writers.

I know zero of them that think the song should be "based mainly on a hook and a catchy chorus." Every single one I know and have talked to, talk about the importance of the entire song in making a hit, not just a chorus. Using a verse to set up a hook is far more effective. Max Martin's latest interview discussing how he sometimes goes about that is pretty fascinating.

 

And I say that as someone that literally named his company Chorus.

 

Perhaps... repeating a chorus again... is for the same reason a chorus exists in the first place, to stick in your head and keep coming back. That's the whole reason the institution exists in the first place

 

"Only to make a song longer." Fucking imbecile

 

Really dude? No need for things like that.

 

It was harsh, I'll admit. And I'm sorry. But I am just so tired of this anti-pop slant that everyone seems to come in with every time a band who maybe once played power chords releases a pop song.

Pop isn't a dirty word

 

That interview was fantastic. So much knowledge to take in and really cool to see inside the mind of such a great song writer.

 

It's okay if a band has a chorus they really love and want to emphasize it by playing it again at the end of the song. That doesn't mean they've fallen prey to the bastards at the Tin Pan Alley or whatever who want to make every song have the same structure. It just means they wrote a song they were excited about and a chorus they wanted to share with the world

 

If Paramore wrote Brand New Eyes again this entire thread would be filled with people saying their songs all sound the same.

 

If I may inject some positivity to you: your username is great.

 

I ride with all these posts!

 

I'm just... Isn't the point of a chorus that it repeats? Like if that part of the song doesn't repeat isn't that just a verse then? The reason an artist would repeat the chorus multiple times is the same reason an artist repeats it at all? What am I missing? Reminds me of American Pie. Wow that song sucks it repeats the chorus too much, Don McLean just kept repeating it to lengthen the song.

 

Anyway... can we talk about the bridge in this song? Because the bridge is brilliant. I love the way her voice goes so soft, but sounds so good. I don't know what it is but it has a really nice effect. Probably my favorite part of the song.

 

Yeah, I honestly don't want to get caught up in the negative side of this! The song is great! I danced around my bathroom to it! Once again, Hayley has really nailed the exact thing I've been feeling- she's such a great lyricist, even the simple lines pack a punch. I feel like Paramore always knows what I need to get by.