Paramore - After Laughter (May 12th, 2017) Album • Page 104

for reference

panic did 190k week 1
21 pilots did 150k week 1
FOB's american beauty/american psycho did 190k
california did 190k

now those bands are bigger and had more recent radio hits so it's not meant to be a perfect comparison but that's some zone of recent big pop rock bands

 

it would be one of the highest charting "rock" debuts of the year though.

 

All those rollouts were pretty long as well, giving more credence to the importance of long rollouts for sales these days

 

it's weird seeing the actual impression of it, since in all under the mainstream scenes longer rollouts don't necessarily help. also fascinates me seeing how the general public consumes and hears about new music

50k more people bought paramore's last album than this one. what happened to those other people? how many didn't buy this one and how many didn't buy the last one but bought this? pretty fascinating imo

 

I mean Still In

damn when you compare it those bands/albums that's actually kinda disappointing. i always considered Paramore to be on those bands level. SHOCKED to hear Panic that high.

 

Panic is ENORMOUS right now

 

Yeah I'm not surprised at all at that panic number

 

short rollouts = lower first week sales



this isn't rocket science people. hard times has a ton of views on youtube and i doubt it's going to be the single that really propels them from this album. aint it fun was the fourth single from self-titled. and i mean, they took four years between albums, that's an insane amount of time in the pop world. so no one should act the least bit surprised about the sales numbers and it'd be foolish to act like they aren't popular at all because of it, they're just now reacquainting themselves with the pop world. they have plenty of time to tour and promote the album and there's no shortage of hit material on this album to catch on big during the actual album cycle and not before the album drops. first week sales are just one way of measuring how big a band is, and its one of the worst ways to do so especially when again the rollout was so short.

 

that sentence blows my mind even more! I'm pretty "with it" (sure i am), and i cant even name the last Panic song that made the radio? Or was popular?

Like if I were to ask 100 people to name the latest Panic song, I feel like they'd have a tough time. Meanwhile Paramore has been crushing it with big time radio singles. I guess Panic's fanbase is more rabid?

 

So did Paramore not care about their first week sales? I'm not being snarky at all, just wondering

 

No. Panic is just bigger. Their albums are bigger. Their singles are bigger.

 

Panic has a huuuuuge fan base but I don't think it's at all from radio play, it's from online

 

Hallelujah charted way higher than Hard Times, would that not translate to radio play?

 

the singles are bigger? Again, it must not be from radioplay. A quick look at the singles chart on wiki and i see panic hasn't had a single crack the top 50 in a long time. Meanwhile Paramore have had a handful.

 

The first single on their last album did.

 

yeah i see hallelujah hit 40... but compare that to paramore who have had 4 songs in the top 40 and one that was top 10. Panic doesn't come close to that. So if you're saying the singles are bigger, im not sure what you're going by.

maybe they are bigger, i mean, im shocked to hear they're as big as they are compared the numbers people fed me in here, im just not sure what the metric to use

 

well if they didnt care at all they would've just released it for free. i think they just cared about other things more. letting their fans hear new music asap, getting back to touring, coming back quick and strong rather than dragging out the process. its not like they need the money, its not like their core fan base is anywhere close to small, they dont need first week sales to succeed. few bands do really. because thats not the best way to measure or be successful.

 

I had guessed earlier in thread that harry would sell double, but couldn't have expected 5 times more

 

this is very true. I'm less trying to call paramore to failure and more just trying to bring discussion to what happened here and that is definitely is significantly lower than everyone thouggt

 

I feel like having the album out in time to springboard summer tour dates is an underrated factor here.

 

I feel like the band wanted this, in the Zane Lowe interview, they said that they've said "no" to a lot of things already for this album cycle. Those Spotify billboard that I posted a while back, they only popped up in Nashville. Sounds like they wanted to keep things low key.

 

It's basically *the* factor from what I've heard.

 

They rejected interviews from basically all press beside a few huge places (we got shot down, Haha), and didn't send out any advances. Zane Lowe heard the album the day of his interview from what I heard. So. Yeah. It was definitely intentional.

 

Nope. First week sales aren't gonna change anything for this band, they coulda optimized for them if they wanted. They didn't and they sold nicely for the turn around all said.

Albums getting good word of mouth now too. So I could see that continuing

 

They have an established fan base, a good tour ahead of them and this album will probably be a consistent seller. I didn't give a chance to this band until I saw all the praise this was getting. They'll be fine