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Oscars 2025 • Page 62

Discussion in 'Entertainment Forum' started by Ferrari333SP, Nov 15, 2024.

  1. OhTheWater

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    I’ve softened on some Youtube analysis
     
  2. Long Century

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    YouTube Premium enriches my life
     
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  3. Zilla

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    Yeah, YouTube film analysis is pretty much the present and future of film criticism. I’m not saying there aren’t decent critics on Tik Tok. I just will never know because I don’t like that platform and its presentation.
     
  4. i can be on tiktok in one hand and touch grass with the other
     
  5. Morrissey

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    The great thing about social media criticism is that it democratizes more points of view. Newspaper critics are still overwhelmingly older white men.
     
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  6. Long Century

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    It has also had the same anti intellectual downsides as populism
     
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  7. Michael Belt

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    speaking as someone who used to use TikTok (just viewing, never posting), there are definitely some folks on there who make a concerted effort to share their love and criticism of many different types of films, with some doing so with professional experience in the industry, an academic background in film studies, etc. it's not a conventional platform for film criticism by any means, but they figure that their critiques can have a broader reach on a modern social media platform and potentially make them some semblance of a living (although i know some people who have also had trouble monetizing their content and have moved over to longform analysis on YouTube).

    that being said, the fact that it's a platform where anyone can post their opinions does open up the possibility of encountering some batshit takes and misinterpretations. there are definitely a good number of those too, and like any other social media platform, its users will have to sift through the bad to find the good.

    idk. i don't use the platform anymore, but there are some great films and deeper understandings of others i wouldn't have encountered without TikTok. but i also know there are creatives on there whose takes completely miss the intended subtext or are intentionally polarizing for the sake of clout. this isn't suggesting that everyone try to get their film criticism from TikTok - only that the ones on there who care truly do care enough to do their research and not just pull an analysis out of their ass.
     
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  8. speaking just in general and not specifically about The Brutalist, at what point does historical fiction taking liberties on actual accounts become irresponsible?
     
  9. Morrissey

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    If they put their face in the thumbnail of every video, they are probably bad. If they don't, they might have value.
     
  10. Zilla

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    Breakfast All Day uses their photos, but they’re also older and the photos aren’t them them making the worst faces imaginable, so I give them a pass.
     
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  11. Morrissey

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    They're okay. They are real critics so they know what they're talking about, but they aren't really trying anything new. It's the same basic format Siskel and Ebert were doing.
     
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  12. Meerkat

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    We need critical thinking courses back in schools. So many people can only see what’s directly shoved in their faces and nothing beyond
     
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  13. iCarly Rae Jepsen

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    I mean did those ever exist lol , but yeah it's definitely scary
     
  14. Meerkat

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    I never had them but they actually did! My fiancée had critical thinking classes all throughout middle school
     
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  15. Greg

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    I don’t know if I ever had a class dedicated to it, but it was covered in multiple classes.
     
  16. Michael Belt

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    i was part of a gifted education program from 3rd through 8th grade that had them. don't remember a ton about them, but i do remember them being my first foray into forming and defending arguments for research papers
     
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  17. Greg

    The Forgotten Son Supporter

    Oh. I guess if we count the gifted programs stuff, I guess some classes were dedicated to critical thinking for me.
     
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  18. Zilla

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    I love the Siskel and Ebert format!
     
  19. Morrissey

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    It would be more fun if Lemire or Duralde were meaner. Siskel and Ebert had no problem calling each other fools.
     
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  20. Zilla

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    Agreed. We need critics that aren’t really friends. I don’t know how that happens independently, without a studio making two people do it like Siskel and Ebert did.
     
  21. Zilla

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    The epitome of the worst YouTube critic thumbnails. Now he’s directing an A24 movie, which is wild.
     
  22. Morrissey

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    I if I had a review show with Stuckmann or Lights Camera Jackson I would make it entertaining.
     
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  23. Long Century

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    There has never been a period where people didnt just believe whatever was put in front of them. Thats what we do.
     
  24. OhTheWater

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    The everyone gets a level playing field thing is fine until right wing grifters start coopting it and brainwashing the youth
     
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  25. Zilla

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    I’ve been wanting to give Nebula a try because it seems like they curate the creators on their platform and pay better than YouTube. But dammit I don’t want to pay for another platform.
     
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