Noah Kahan - The Great Divide (April 24, 2026) Album • Page 8

Discussion in 'Music Forum' started by OhTheWater, Jan 29, 2026.

  1. irthesteve May 2, 2026
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    irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    I listened again today and I think the thing that kinda gets to me the most is how many songs follow a really similar structure. So many of them start subdued, acoustic, moody, sparse and then halfway through the song it builds up and gets upbeat, the catchy hooks arrive. It's a good song structure, but it happens soooo much here it gets a little tiring to me
     
  2. Brother Beck

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    I finally had a chance to listen to this entire thing a handful of times. I love it. he is such a great writer. I'd honestly only lose a few 3 tracks.
     
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  3. Pepetito

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    American Cars
    Downfall
    Paid Time Off
    Staying Still
    The Great divide
    Haircut
    willing and able
    Porch Light
    A few of your own
    Dan
     
  4. OhTheWater

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    Record has definitely grown on me with repeated listens. I'd say it's much better than the Zach Bryan record from this year in terms of white boy singer songwriters.
     
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  5. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    I faaarrrrr prefer Zach, but they are very different albums
     
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  6. OhTheWater

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    Outside of Skin and South and Pine, I really haven't gone back to it. My wife has been playing this in the car, so it's a bit easier to zone out on the sleepier moments of the album.
     
  7. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    I would take Santa Fe, Skin, Dry Deserts, Bad News and South and Pine over anything on this album by a large margin. Both albums are spotty as hell, but the best of Zach's stuff still shines way more for me
     
  8. Craig Manning

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    Yeah, this album is way better and more fully realized than the Zach album, IMO. So many of Zach’s songs feel like rough drafts to me at this point, which is not the case for this album, even though I still think it could have used an editor.
     
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  9. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    This definitely is more cohesive and yes, fully realized, but I simply don't think the songs have the highs, it's a lot of "good stuff" and doesn't really get into great for me.
     
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  10. Matt Chylak

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    South St and Pine St are parallel streets in Philly that are multiple full blocks away from each other, so that song is invalid. You can’t meet there.
     
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  11. Craig Manning

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    I don't necessarily disagree with you that this album is mostly "good stuff" and not extraordinary, but there are a few tracks that tilt into great territory for me ("End of August," "American Cars," "The Great Divide" and "23," namely) and that's more than the zero great songs I heard on the new Zach Bryan album, which I think is handily the worst thing he's put out.
     
  12. Matthewconte

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    This is what happened with The Lone Bellow for me
     
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  13. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    I urge you to revisit the tracks I listed, they remind me of why I first got into Zach
     
  14. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I've gone back to it probably a dozen times, and I mostly find it really boring.
     
  15. Brother Beck

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    Zach Bryan's Philly is like Wes Anderson's NYC in Royal Tenenbaums
     
  16. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    Juuuuuusstttttt the ones I listed Craaaiiiggggg
     
  17. ncarrab

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    Wild - I think WHOT is ZB's best album. I love it front to back.

    I like The Great Divide, but nowhere near as much as WHOT.

    Also not sure why we are comparing the two so much.
     
  18. Craig Manning

    @FurtherFromSky Moderator

    I really don't like "Bad News." I get what he was going for, with the "I got some bad news/I woke up missing you" punchline set against all these lyrics about the tumult of this moment in American politics/society, but it just ends up feeling ham-fisted and trivializing to me, especially given his history of both-sidesing political matters.

    The other four are alright and made my cut-down version of the tracklist.
     
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  19. irthesteve

    formerly irthesteve Supporter

    Ok fine I'll accept it
     
  20. OhTheWater

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    ZB’s best work is still his earlier, rawer stuff imo and I think he tries for a rushed feeling to the new high production stuff and it rarely works. I think Noah Kahan took full advantage of the fame and money he got in between records and you can hear it on the tracks. I like ZB better overall, but think this is the better of the 26 records.
     
  21. Matthewconte

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    But how do you know it's about Philly. Those are super common street names and the song says she's in her New York City gown. Nothing else points to Philly.
     
  22. Matt Chylak

    I can always be better, so I'll always try. Supporter

    Because roughly a quarter of his songs reference Philly landmarks and he lived around the corner from me for two years... over near Pine Street.
     
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  23. Matthewconte

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    Yeah but nothing in the text of the song
     
  24. Matt Chylak

    I can always be better, so I'll always try. Supporter

    there are not a lot of folk/country/rock songwriters that can sell out stadiums who also released overlong, same-y albums in 2026.
     
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  25. ncarrab

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    I don't think WHOT was long enough.
     
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