NFL Season 2020 Football • Page 78

Cant sign someone for 8-10 years. And hes not talking about the best QB in football. Hes talking about, for example, his QB haha.

 

I'm talking about it in general, I'm not even mad about the Wentz contract, it had to happen. The Chiefs are going to be financially fucked when they sign Mahomes.

 

For the record I'm not upset about QB contracts, if you believe he's the guy you gotta sign him

 

If you believe Jared Goff is the guy then you gotta find a new guy to find the guy

 

Well that's the Rams problem lol.

 

No. I don’t think Mahomes wins 6 Super Bowls.

 

I’m drunk. Are we still pro Brady or pro Mahomes because fuck his love of ketchup

 

Ketchup hatred has jumped the shark

 

I bet a lot of people thought Marino would win multiple Super Bowls after his first 2 years

look how that turned out

 

Tonight I bought a round at a gay bar. I wish I was less proud hahab

 

This. Only flaw in his game really. Though if he does that behind the back pass they teased...he can dump a truckload of Heinz on a steak for all I care.

Disagree here, he played with fire, got burned, and I suspect he'll learn from that. He's clearly tough, and even someon as reckless as Favre learned how to manage the chaos. I actually think as he feels less desire to move around, he only gets scarier as a player (unlike, say, Favre or Roethlisberger, who were good passers who only really get elite via extending plays)

Also, Mahomes is in a FAR friendlier league for passing than Brady (as Brady was vs Marino/Montana/etc). Hilariously, what will protect Mahomes is most of the rules they changed to protect Brady and Manning. Tom Brady had to get the rule changed for his ACL, had to get the tuck rule modified, etc...those are already there for Mahomes.

 

Of course, Marino's 1984 season is the only one that even vaguely resembles Mahomes' season. Marino was a high INT, low completion percentage passer basically every year...Mahomes has had two seasons at the 66% mark. In the modern NFL, Dan Marino's (first 7-8 years) equivalent, no lie, is Jameis Winston (or maybe Matt Stafford)...just pure volume with an almost disregard for completion percentage and interceptions.

Favre and Marino are basically the two examples of "guys who changed the league" but also, where they were so reckless in their approach that their actual contribution is someone modeling their game after them and being successful in that approach.

 

Marino and Elway top my overrated QB's of all time list.

 

To be fair, we're just multiplying how many championships they've won in three years by how many years we expect them to play.

For Mahomes, that's, 1 every 3, say he plays 15 years, that's 5.

For Marino, that's, 0.

 

this is interesting because I feel like the argument against Marino is the argument for Elway, and vice versa

 

Don't get me wrong, Marino was great. But I don't think he's top 10 all time and he's consistently put there. Being a trailblazer doesn't equate to being good. If it was a list of importance, sure, Marino.

And for Elway, I just don't think he's even better than a Rivers or so. Depends on where people rank him but he's pretty close to Matt Ryan to me.

 

Never is a strong word, but I don’t think anyone is getting to 6 rings any time soon, and it probably won’t be any of these guys in the league right now. Super Bowl wins are so circumstantial and requires everything breaking perfectly. Brady has one of the best stretches of sustained elite performance, and even still, he wouldn’t have 6 rings if he didn’t start his career in the perfect situation with a team that could put a maybe slightly better than league average QB in position to win 3(!) rings early on

 

100%

 

Rodgers is the perfect comparison to Mahomes. Watching him right around ten years ago is watching Mahomes now. Our jaws hitting the floor seeing someone play at a level we’ve never seen before. And doing it consistently.

Dude only went to and won one ring. FIVE more to tie Brady. It’s just astounding.

 

The whole Brady thing is one of those scenarios of everything breaking exactly the right way. 1,000 things have had to go just the right way to end up where they have.

 

Pete Carroll pretty much gift wrapped a ring for Brady, the two Giants games were pretty much just bad luck.

 

.........what?

 

Gift wrapped? Seahawks were up two scores in the fourth and the Patriots stormed back and required one of the smartest and most well prepared defensive plays I’ve ever seen.

 

Yea, the pats prepared to let the Seahawks get all the way down the field and then have a udfa who had trouble in practice with slants get the game winning pick on the goal line.

 

I wouldn’t put it passed Belichek