NFL Season 2020 Football • Page 1681

Ranking NFL teams by most homegrown talent

(it’s a video, sorry)

 

Lol at least we get to the crux of it which is, you don't like that style of team building. Totally fair, but it's not an invalid way to do it, and if you're a team that hasn't won in 20 years, do you really care HOW you do it as long as you get there? It's obviously risky, but very few teams in any sport win JUST by drafting and developing well.

 

Like, if Shad decided "fuck it, I want to win now. Trade #1 overall, trade whatever you have to, get me a ring." and it worked, would you really be saying "Well that's great and all but now we don't have draft capital!"

 

People talk up Jimmy G like he's not made of glass...his potential might be Cousins/Stafford, but his reality is Bridgewater/Cam.

Nah, the number of players on their roster who tap out to free agency or old age by the end of 2022 is too high. Its precisely because they had no 2020 or 2021 1sts that they could really reload with an elite fill-in for when Whitworth, Woods, etc all go bye-bye.

Stafford is the move to win in 2021 and 2022. And if that fails, he's probably not in LA in 2023 nor is basically anyone on that roster aside from Donald, Ramsey, and Kupp.

 

Trades require strategy too lol. So does actually playing the games.

 

the good news is that no one in Los Angeles cares about the Rams haha

 

literally I was doing contractor work in Los Angeles in January-February 2019 and no one gave a shit about the Rams being the Super Bowl

I saw more Patriots gear the weeks leading up to the game than Rams gear haha

 

I would strongly doubt that it would work and then be shocked and happy when it did. Yes, I would feel the same way about winning a Super Bowl regardless.

I think what grinds my gears is LA is a fair weather ass sports city that already lost its team TWICE... and now it just comes off like a sense of entitlement from a city that props its entire self esteem up on image and fame. “Salary cap / conventional wisdom doesn’t apply to us, this is LA get me all the superstars”.

I root for a small market team that has tested my loyalty repeatedly, and come from an opposite background... so it just feels like a slap in the face to what my team has to do, to succeed in a town that FAs don’t want to go to

 

honestly no one is LA probably even knows that the Rams have Matt Stafford

like for real sports talk radio in LA is 24/7 Lakers, USC, UCLA and Dodgers

 

Also, like, LA is a new team to their market that historically doesnt give a shit about non-champions. Its 1000% the right move for their market.

But you dont have to do that. Miami didnt. They drafted well for a year or two and then bought a defense. Jags could do that this year with their picks and cap space.

The team you bought in 2016 made the playoffs and won a playoff game in 2017.

 

the Packers never spent money during Rodgers' prime and look what that got them lol

 

Randall has invented a whole ass argument here

 

Yep. Jags are the biggest spenders in free agency of the last decade and its not even remotely close.

Its a strong argument for why the Jags shouldnt; because they've had WFT levels of non-success with the approach, but, doesnt mean no team can succeed with it (Saints are the #3 spenders and its worked well for them)

 

I personally would love for my team to take the Rams approach instead of whatever the fuck we've been doing the last 10 years. At least make it look like you're trying to attain the one thing every team should be trying to get

 

I mean, as a Steelers fan right now, I'm pretty happy we spent the 1st rounder for Minkah and spent some free agency money to try and have a shot the last few years. And I wish we had given up another 1st rounder or two if it brought us another OLB or OL player to give us the shot. Like, give me Tunsil and Stills and we send back Juju and a 1st and 2nd to MIA

Cause yeah, we'll be good after Ben and go 8-8 a bunch. But the real value is in going <4-12 and taking a top 5 pick or >12-4 and winning a SB. Being in between is purgatory.

 

Literally the only signing I truly liked out of that bunch was Calais Campbell. That was a great move. Everyone else was overpaid and the team chemistry didn’t last. Even AJ Bouye was an awful tackler that I didn’t like nearly as much after 2017.

and yeah the top paragraph is part of what rubs me the wrong way haha. Just doing it to market to fairweather, spoiled fans.

 

I'd hate it if the Jags tried to do with the Rams are doing because the Jags suck. The Rams were close enough to a super bowl berth to think that Stafford could push the needle.

 

the vast majority of those Jags signings were atrocious though. 2015 FA class was entirely a waste for example. Remember Julius Thomas LOL

that probably has something to do with me hating the strategy of signing a million free agents and expecting that to build a consistent team culture

 

hm. Sammy Watkins was on the Rams lol. Don't remember that

 

And Brandin Cooks

 

He probably doesn't either

 

Also worth pointing out - the Jags actually had cap space and draft capital when we did all those acquisitions. Here we have a team in cap hell with no first round picks for 8 years still playing roulette. That’s silly to me also.

 

I agree - it’s weird watching teams like the Tom Brady Buccaneers, the Peyton Manning Broncos, and the LeBron James Lakers be successful

not invalid and not saying it won’t work, but the proven formulas for winning a Super Bowl over the past 20 years have been:
1) have the GOAT QB and GOAT coach (New England x6)

2) build an elite supporting cast around a QB on a rookie deal (Kansas City, Philadelphia, Seattle, Baltimore, Pittsburgh, early New England years)

3) convince a Hall of Fame QB to sign on and be the piece that puts your otherwise good team over the top (Denver, maybe Tampa)

4) have a Hall of Fame level QB who gets you there for his one ring (Indianapolis, New Orleans, Green Bay)

5) idk, whatever the Giants did

this isn’t one of them and my guess is that Stafford doesn’t get them over the hump and they fall short while also risking giving up what they need to build a team like #2. But it could happen and they’ll be a favorite in the NFC.

 

Oh, I'm sure. And as Ive said, I'm betting McVay looks back on this in 2023 as he's about to take 2-3 years of trash seasons and have his job at risk and regret it...but, you gotta take the risk with where they are.

Besides, you can probably buy the parts of the team they have to shed after 2022 to make your T-Law playoff push

Its a lovely mix of sunk-cost fallacy and truly having no other option in that division and this moment.

They return with Goff and the same team; and Stafford or Cousins goes to San Fran, they're completely fucked after 2022 anyway AND they might not make the playoffs either year.

 

Would we say the Rams are good at trade strategy? Or just more willing to be reckless?