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Discussion in 'Sports Forum' started by Night Channels, Jul 14, 2019.

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  1. Randall Mentzos Jan 24, 2021
    (Last edited: Jan 25, 2021)
    Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    i think a lot of teams are still afraid to install an option-heavy vertical offense, even though the NFL is changing and it worked well with the Bills. You kinda need a Josh Allen to do it.

    A lot of their routes aren’t coverage beater, timing oriented progressions, they’re based on simply spreading the defense thin so Allen can use his athletic talent to stretch the field and move the pocket around. It makes simple crossing routes and backfield wrinkles become much harder to defend, and it is more so complex with motion and alignment than it is with downfield progressions.

    It was the right thing to do to tap into Josh Allen’s extremely good raw characteristics - I think he became a much better passer because the offense fits him so well and doesn’t ask him to overthink anything. He has been able to focus on fundamentals while doing what he does best / playing as close to backyard football as it gets in such a complicated NFL. But while this puts a lot of pressure on zone defenses... as we saw today with KC, strong man to man coverage can make it hard for the QB to find any options in that kind of offense. The DEs played great containment outside the pocket and Allen kept getting stuck in the backfield with nowhere to throw.

    I feel like most traditional teams, with QBs who aren’t primarily improvisers, are turned off by an offense that doesn’t operate on timing and planned precision.

    Now, if DeShaun Watson went to the Panthers, and THEY hired Daboll... that would be fucking awesome haha. DeShaun would go nuts cause he has the improv skills all day, and Moore / Samuel / CMC are ideal weapons for that offensive approach. And I could see the Panthers doing that considering their last big push as a franchise was with Cam Newton, that team & fanbase is already accustomed to an atypical offense that encourages QB runs
     
  2. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    Brian Daboll is like a more balanced Greg Roman who is comfortable passing the ball
     
  3. Randall Mentzos

    When you hit a mothafucka, you hit that mothafucka Prestigious

    yes I want to buy a house before I’m 40, I realized I needed to go to college NOW to make that happen.

    I want to be a homeowner in the next 10 years, even if (god forbid) I’m still struggling to find a wife by then and I have to buy it myself.
     
  4. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

     
  5. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

    Also, yes he absolutely DOES have red flags. Yes they were a long time ago and yes other coaches have had red flags like Patricia but to say Bienemy DOESN'T have a past just isn't true...
     
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  6. MyBestFiend

    go birds Prestigious

    Don't know much about Steichen but anyone has to be better than Press Taylor
     
  7. PeacefulOrca

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  8. Fuego

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  9. Night Channels

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    Why does it matter that he was just an RB coach?

    He put his hands around a woman's neck and threatened her. That's a ...pretty big deal.
     
  10. GreatBeardRecs

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  11. whitenblue88

    The rivalry is back on

    excited for him! It’s hard to get a read on if position coaches will translate well as coordinators, but I’ve heard only good things about Brady
     
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  12. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious


    The arrest report outlined the incident: Bieniemy was with five friends in a parking lot when he allegedly approached a lot attendant from behind and grabbed her by the neck. The victim told police the contact was not painful, but it startled her. She said the man also made comments while holding her.

    "She stated that the male who grabbed her said something about 'a bunch of black males all at once being her worst nightmare,' " according to the report.

    As someone who reads police reports every day, it's not surprising they didn't even charge this because this sounds like a racist ass white woman.
     
  13. Night Channels

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    I still don't understand why Bieniemy only being a running backs coach at the time makes this less of a problem?

    It's a bigger deal if he's a coordinator or a head coach? If that's not what you're implying then my bad, but that's how it reads.
     
  14. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    EB was a recruiter at Colorado. Their scandal that involved several accusations was a recruiting one. That's pretty much all I need to know.
     
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  15. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    I was talking about the larger Colorado recruiting scandal which started years before he got there, not Bienemy's brush ups with the law which have been minor stuff.
     
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  16. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Who cares when it started if it continued under him
     
  17. MidDave

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    I really feel like both things can be true. The NFL has a long and storied history of black candidates not getting a fair shake in coaching and GM hires, AND Bienemy is hardly a perfect or blemish-free candidate.
     
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  18. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    Because it seems weird to tie a program issue with one particular person who was only there for a small period of time and who wasn't even deposed? There's nothing indicating Bienemy had any involvement whatsoever.
     
  19. xbrokendownx

    Lets Go. Prestigious

     
  20. JRShoenberger

    there is one way out

    If the PSU situation is any precedent, complacency can be just as damning.
     
  21. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    I'm gonna err on the side of the victims here considering the issue was public, he chose to join the department with the problem, and the problem persisted. Not a ridiculous jump to make.
     
  22. tkamB

    God of Wine Prestigious

    Both things are true, I never said Bienemy is a perfect, blemish-free candidate, but the fact that he isn't is exactly why the racism in NFL hiring practices looms so large, because a white coach with the same resume and history would have been hired by now despite the blemishes.
     
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  23. CarpetElf

    chorus's #3 oklahoma city comets fan Prestigious

    Oh yeah, that's what's so frustrating about people dying on this EB hill. This is a huge issue and you choose to champion the ONE person it doesnt apply to? FOH.
     
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  24. uuu

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    I think coaches get hired / not hired for weird reasons and I have to say I think race is pretty low on that list of reasons.

    in EB's case he's not even the primary play caller there and he'd become one, that's a giant step.
     
  25. MidDave

    Prestigious Supporter

    This is fair
     
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